I drive for a large chicken company.Who were under the ag ruling <100 mile radius>until they installed recording devices,that included gps.We were told the ag rule no longer applies because of this ,EXCEPT ,the one day 16 hour work rule.I could find no relation to this in the DOT rule book.any answers?
agri rules and onboard recording device
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by m.t. pockets, Jul 12, 2009.
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Do you drive more than 100 miles and now the GPS records this?
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It's irrelevant.
He now has an on board recorder, recording everything he does. It would be the same ruling, if his company walked in and handed him a log book. And informed him to start using it.
He wasn't required to use one, because of the rule. Now he has one. So the 100 mile rule, is a none issue. He can drive as far as they ask him too, so long as he has the hours.
The recorder will serve 2 purposes. It will allow him and his company to completely ignore the 100 mile rule. And will more accurately keep track of his actual working hours.
Most guys that work within a 100 mile radius, are hourly. Not saying he is...but that's generally the case.
The 16 hour rule, isn't an AG rule only. So again...irrelevant. It works the same as before. -
Mr. John Hill blew the ag exemption out of the water before he departed the FMCSA as the Administrator:
IOW, the ag exception only applies from the farm to the co-op and from the retail out let to the farm.
The interpretation has a serious impact on the people that transport ammonia anhydrous from the pipeline to the co-ops. I imagine it has an impact on other forms of ag commodities as well.
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Thanks for the info.Yes we are hourly paid.Seem's we were and still are under the second stage movements concerning legislative history that you spoke of.But I don't see a 16 hour work day other than it can be done if youv'e worked a 2 day week only.We did not have to do a log regardless of the miles as long as we did not work over a 12 hour day.
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Says who...Hasn't changed our operations for "Smoke" at all. There is drive sort of to change the ag exemption, but it hasn't been done yet.
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I think this may the source of your confusion. Apologies, if I'm wrong.
The above statement doesn't imply you have the previous 5 days off IE a 2 day work week. It implies you were released from duty the previous 5 days....at the same location. Point of origin, as the other poster refered to.
It allows you to be detained for an additional 2 hours, once per week, within a normal work week. And still return to your normal place of business. IE The farm/barn/plant. provided it can be done within a 16 hour on duty window. With no more than 11 hours driving.
This clause has nothing to do with inclement weather provision, which can extend the driving time, by 2 hours. IE 13 hours driving. It's generally assumed the driver will abide by the 14 hour rule....regardless of weather conditions.
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