No, you just called on two of them. A $1.50/mile to the east coast is a s*** rate. I wouldnt do it for $1.70 either.
And btw, in case you didnt know it, TQL is a bottom feeder broker.
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Well thanks! I have heard they were a not so good broker. One of the reason's why i called them. The load from central was hobbs to atlanta. The way she sounded in distress about it i think she would have paid more. Those were some of the cheapest now that i think about it tql had another one 1.47! Still i havent found any 1.00 or .70-.90 cent mile stuff yet. Ill keep calling thou.
I figured that wasnt bad considering how everyone says all rates in texas suck right now.
So what is a good rate to the east coast? Maybe ill name as price on one of them see what they say????
Iam guessing allen lund pays fairly well because there loads disappear fast lol. -
Rates outta the midwest to east coast anyways are $2.00 (plus fuel) give or take. This is becuase freight comming out pays a buck...maybe, if that.
I've seen more that a few atractive looking loads posted on ITS, only to see them posted by TQL. Then I scroll on past.
I don't do Texas, so I wont proclaim to be some kind of know it all, and I too have heard freight comming outta Texas is bad....but the fact remains you need a money load if going east, becuase comming out wont pay jack.
ALWAYS bargain for more money with these cut throats. If they won't move on price, laugh and hang the **** up on them.Got reefer? Thanks this. -
I'd have to get over $2.25 to go to the east coast from TX. ,mabey more depending how far up the coast.
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Thanks for the help and info! Unfortunately this is a slow experiment as most brokers work 10 to 3 apparently. I have noticed there isn't much leaving the northeast once you get up there.
Whats wrong with TQL? Even if they had a decent paying load you wouldnt take it?
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By that, I meant attractive in the sense of the starting point, to the destination. TQL, as common with most brokers, don't post a rate. But when I see a load posted by TQL (without the rate posted) I just move on.
These cut rate ****ers have low bid too much freight, essentialy taking it away from independents - then had the balls to call up these very independents and offer the same loads that these guys just lost, for less $. Nobody gains dick, except the middleman, who was never needed in the first place. -
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I get calls from TQL once in a while.......... my reaction pshhhh #### off
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I'd like to throw my 2 cents in here, but I'm new so be easy on me
I understand your frustration about brokers, especially large brokers. I have worked for CHR in the past and I can assure you, they do lose money on loads, especially in the summer. I can also attest to the fact that they take advantage of lower rates in slower markets. When it comes to the end of the year though, they come out ahead.
Seasonality and supply/demand are the root cause of rate fluctuations. Instead of looking at this as a problem, it can also be looked at as an opportunity. Learn the market your are hauling in. Everyone knows certain areas of the country are busier at certain times of the year. People are going to cut rates on each other in a slow market whether they be brokers or carriers or whoever. Try not to take it so personally: If you drive to a gas station and see gas for $3 at one, and $2.50 across the street, which one are you going to go to?
Also, it never hurts to try and negotiate with them. They need to move the load just as bad as you need the load. Find a good branch or employee, joke with them, look at it as a game. They are much more likely to come up on their rates if they enjoy working with you.
And when it comes down to it, you don't have to take the load. They wouldn't be quoting those low rates if carriers weren't hauling the loads for cheap. Do some research and find brokers who aren't such "loadboard ######" and are looking to build lasting business relationships.
My overall opinion is, sometimes you have to get it when you can and take your licks when you have to. But if you plan ahead and know your market, you won't need to worry about cheap rates.
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