New old truck.

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Heavyhualgirl, Oct 27, 2019.

  1. Heavyhualgirl

    Heavyhualgirl Bobtail Member

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    I recently started driving for a small company out of Alabama, this is new for me, I've always owned my own rigs. However, I have to say this is this best outfit I've ever driven for. The boss sees me as his daughter and let's me run the truck how I want to. He recently purchased a completely redone 93 Peterbilt 379. 3406 18 spd and the works for heavy hual, most of my trucking experience is platform including oversize. My question is he wants me on paper, i can still use an electronic "paper log" correct? I really hate filling out paper logs. I'm driving a much newer truck now that's on keep trucking, its not linked to the truck yet but it will be after December, I'm training my replacement for that truck soon. Couldn't I just use keep trucking as a "paper log" as the company could still see what I'm doing and it's the same thing. Anyway thanks yaw, I'm new to the forum and looking forward to responses.
     

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  3. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    Yes, you would be legal to use Keep Trucking log app after December in the 1993 truck. Keep in mind, some DOT officers want you to be able to print the non-ELD logs so you may want to carry a printer.

    Now, that said, does he want you on paper so he can push you to "fudge" your log? Although not impossible on a log app it is much harder to cover the trail than simply tossing out a loose leaf page and starting over. I am not advocating for cheating on your logs, but you should find out his real reason for wanting you on paper before deciding to use an electronic log app. If it is simply because an ELD will not work with the 1993 truck, then he should have no problem with the app, if not he will have to tell you and you will have to decide what you want to do.

    Me personally, I tried the Keep Trucking app and a few others and never did like any of them. I most work the office as safety and compliance consultant but still do drive when possible. I get to use paper because I am doing driveaway transport work and use my old loose leaf without hesitation. Love paper, not for cheating, I run 100% compliant, just much simpler than punching in data on my tablet or smartphone.
     
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  4. Heavyhualgirl

    Heavyhualgirl Bobtail Member

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    Yeah he doesn't want me fudging either, he just doesn trust anyone else driving that truck. And he let's me do what I need to do and run how I want. I run compliant also. No fudging lol. We run solar powered 90% of the time anyway. I just hating filling out paper logs lol. That's why I want an electronic version. We have printers in our trucks bc we print out oversize permits all the time.
     
  5. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    Then legally you will be fine. The electronic logging apps are the same as paper, so being a non-ELD truck you will be legal and will not need to tie it into the truck in any way.

    Enjoy the ride and stay safe out there.
     
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  6. Heavyhualgirl

    Heavyhualgirl Bobtail Member

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    Good! The "paper log" in looking at flags with GPS markers, so it's either that one or I'll just keep using keep trucking. Thanks!
     
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  7. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Don't forget to keep a log book in the cab either. For if the printer dies or something gets messed up with the app.
     
  8. Gumper

    Gumper Road Train Member

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    I’ve been using the keep truckin app on my phone for a year now. I won’t go back to hand writing if I don’t have to. The gestapo can check the logs on my phone in the inspection mode, or I can email it to them. If they want them printed they are SOL. Carry several pages of paper logs in my binder just in case my phone breaks, or there’s a software problem. At my last inspection the DOT guy told me the app won’t be legal after December. Just smiled and said “ok” since I wasn’t going to argue with the moron who confused it with an AOBRD.
     
  9. Cabinover101

    Cabinover101 Heavy Load Member

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    Whistle Whistle, oh sorry. The "electronic" version of a paper log is the best ever in my personal humble opinion. The one I used to use before the mandate was Eclipse Log Book on my "Electronic" Laptop :) it was Great! But of course like others said you have to have a printer in the truck. Like you, I had one to print Oversize permits. Just recently started using Keep Trucking ELD but not sure about their non-ELD version. Although I know you can print the logs. Just a reminder to all that are using ELD's ~ make sure you have a blank paper log book, also your instructions card and know how to explain it to DOT Officer Friendly. Make sure your device is mounted :)
    The nice part about an "Electronic" paper logbook is that most all "Form and Manner" Violations go away(as long as you put the correct information in there) and it transfers to the next day with the push of a button = time saver.
     
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    Cabinover101 Heavy Load Member

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    Just a reminder that your device must be mounted. In your case, device equals cell phone.
    Personally, I don't want to hand my cell phone to the Authorities, so I run a tablet for my ELD
     
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    Cabinover101 Heavy Load Member

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    Another reminder for all that are running ELD's anytime you are stopped and asked to see your logs, ALWAYS switch to "Inspection Mode" or "Roadside Inspection Mode" it locks it out and only shows them what is required
     
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