Anti-idling laws. Company drivers, how do you get rest if you don't have a APU?

New York Code of Rules and Regulations
SUBPART 217-3. IDLING PROHIBITION FOR HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES
§ 217-3.1 Applicability This Part shall apply to all on-road heavy duty vehicles propelled by diesel fueled and nondiesel fueled engines excluding marine vessels. Heavy duty vehicle means a vehicle that has a GVWR exceeding 8,500 pounds and is designed primarily for transporting persons or properties.

§ 217-3.2 Prohibitions No person who owns, operates or leases a heavy duty vehicle including a bus or truck, the motive power for which is provided by a diesel or nondiesel fueled engine or who owns, leases or occupies land and has the actual or apparent dominion or control over the operation of a heavy duty vehicle including a bus or truck present on such land, the motive power for which said heavy duty vehicle is provided by a diesel or non-diesel fueled engine, shall allow or permit the engine of such heavy duty vehicle to idle for more than five consecutive minutes when the heavy duty vehicle is not in motion, except as otherwise permitted by section 217-3.3 of this Subpart.

§ 217-3.3 Exceptions The prohibitions of section 217-3.2 of this Subpart shall not apply when:

(a) A diesel or nondiesel fueled heavy duty vehicle including a bus or truck is forced to remain motionless because of the traffic conditions over which the operator thereof has no control.

(b) Regulations adopted by Federal, State or local agencies having jurisdiction require the maintenance of a specific temperature for passenger comfort. The idling time specified in section 217-3.2 of this Subpart may be increased, but only to the extent necessary to comply with such regulations.

(c) A diesel or nondiesel fueled engine is being used to provide power for an auxiliary purpose, such as loading, discharging, mixing or processing cargo; controlling cargo temperature; construction; lumbering; oil or gas well servicing; farming; or when operation of the engine is required for the purpose of maintenance.

(d) Fire, police and public utility trucks or other vehicles are performing emergency services.

(e) Trucks owned or operated by persons engaged in mining and quarrying are used within the confines of such person's property.

(f) A diesel fueled truck is to remain motionless for a period exceeding two hours, and during which period the ambient temperature is continuously below 25 degrees F.

(g) A heavy duty diesel vehicle, as defined in section 217-5.1(o) of this Part, that is queued for or is undergoing a State authorized periodic or roadside diesel emissions inspection pursuant to Subpart 217-5 of this Part.

(h) A hybrid electric vehicle, as defined in section 217-5.1(r) of this Part, idling for the purpose of providing energy for battery or other form of energy storage recharging.

(i) Heavy duty vehicles used for agricultural purposes on a farm.

(j) Electric powered vehicles.

I like how they made sure if you have an electric vehicle, you can idle it all you want. Morons.

Also, you're not considered a passenger, you're the driver. Those passenger exemptions only apply to busses.

 

The sad fact is...Drivers have brought this on themselves! I idle my truck when I need to run my A/C or heat when it is too hot/cold for me to get the rest i need to do my job.

What I don't do is run my truck 24/7 like so many drivers do with no regard to the temperature outside. I see drivers with their trucks running on days when the temps are so moderate that it can't be justified to run the thing. When you start : (a) Paying the fuel bill. (b) Taking the resposibility to use good judgment with regard to when it's appropriate to idle and when it's not. Then maybe the choice will be left up to you. Until then the companies are going to have to penalize all drivers for the bad behavior of the few.

I heard some idiot a while back at a truckstop telling the guy he was with that he had not shut his truck off for almost a year exept to fuel! He even told the guy that when he goes home he closes the sleeper curtain and leaves it running for the whole weekend in the lot where he parks it!

W.T.F. is the matter with a guy like that?

I don't answer to anyone about how much I idle but most of the time when I'm parked my truck is shut off...

 

Sometimes there are refrigerators in there. People buy food and carry with them.

But to park and leave running for two days, not a very smart move.

 

But it's ok to run the stinking, noisy reefer unit day and night to keep that produce cool or warm! Cuz we know that load is worth way more than you or anyone else!

 

They actually did try to ban reefers running until someone with a brain clued them in to what they were doing. They settled for requiring quieter reefers which is fine by me.

 

Very unfair statement,truth is it's just the easiest thing to do when fuel prices go out the roof let's take it out on the driver.
Idling has never been this big of an issue until fuel started going up to outrageous prices.

 

What's unfair about the truth?
You said it yourself, "fuel prices going through the roof"

For many years I slept in trucks in hot weather without A/C. I used a fan and had screens made to keep air flowing through the cab.(nowadays you can buy the screens at most truckstops)

It's trucking! It's not always easy to deal with the realities of the business but we do.

 

But now you idle though.

 

Yes, I do idle my truck...But! It's MY TRUCK! So it's MY CHOICE!

I'm qouting myself here because you are only seeing the part of my posts that you think make your point!

This is the part you must have missed because it obviously didn't register with you! My truck is almost always shut off when I'm parked...Only in very high temps or freezing conditions do I idle it.

 

It seems that thousands of people think that criminals have more rights than truck drivers. Does anyone remember the amount of protests that there were when Arizona opened the "Tent City"? Those protests were the reason more states didnt follow and Arizona didnt open more of those facilities.