Logging Question - "Rollback Hours"?

my farthest was 240 miles from my last stop. Drove 650 miles to last stop and needed to get home to go to doctor. Was tired but not sleepy.


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Tool man if you are in a rental car I do know you don't have to log that time on line 3 or 4 if you take a full 10 hour break prior to getting in the big rig. If you do not take a full 10 hour break when you arrive you can log it on line 4.

I do question the below answer where it says 8 hours, did they just forget to change that to a 10 or can you only take 8 hours? I believe they forgot to change the number when they updated the book. Who would like to send an e-mail asking DOT that question? You could get by with 8 in court, but to be safe I would do a 10 hour break

This is from 395.2 interpritation (s/p?)

Question 24: If a driver is transported by automobile from the point of a breakdown to a terminal, and then dispatched on another run, how is the time spent in the automobile entered on the record of duty status? How is the time entered if the driver goes off-duty once he reaches the terminal?

 

See, what did I tell you? Now your turning into a valuable asset here. I don't think the forum has ever had a log lady before...........

 

<STRONG>Guidance: The time spent in the automobile would be on-duty (not driving) if dispatched on another run once he/she reaches the terminal, and off-duty if he/she is given 8 consecutive hours off-duty upon reaching the terminal.

 

I have a question about how to log a post trip, I was told by a DOT officer in KY about a year ago that you log the Pretrip inspection with amount of time on duty not driving but DOT regs did not require you to log POST TRIP on duty not driving and could be flagged and it be off duty . Now the new company I work for gave me a "log book violation" for not logging 15 mins in a "POST TRIP INSPECTION" even though I had it noted and flagged on my log.

This was my day>>>Start day in (OK) at 0800 on duty not drivng for 1 hr doing pretrip, paperwork and fueling, drive for 2 1/2 hrs to terminal 2 (KS) then off duty for 5 hrs flagging the PT at terminal not in truck or on dock (sleeping or reading,etc) then drive 2 1/2 hrs back to terminal 1 (same truck and trailer) then log off duty (quick walkaround & flag PT again & handoff paperwork) I then leave and go home. :smt031 Was I in violation?

 

Although many companies have this wrong (I hope I see this right), I believe we do have this one right. If you review the pre-trip and the post-trip regulations you should notice the post-trip is your most important inspection where you check everything (this is in the USA). This is an advantage to you drivers by doing the thorough inspection on your post-trip. This way you can find anything wrong and put it in the shop and while it is being repaired hopefully either in the sleeper or in hotel you get your 10 hour break or more. IF you wait and do your thorough inspection after a 10 hour break then you will be sitting that much longer. THINK ABOUT IT! I had a flat at the end of my day, but I didn't look at that. I wake up do my thorough inspection and find it flat. I now have to do the procedures to get it fixed (on--duty) and get it to repair shop or be towed (on-duty). If you notice this at the end of the day then the on-duty will only affect your 70 hour. If you do it at the begginning (and don't get a 10 hour break) it will start your 14 hour day.
But I will post seperate post in the "regulations board" about what DOT says about pre-trip and post-trip and you decide.. I think most officers I "hear" say you need one of them on line 4. IF they know the company regulation then they will see you are following that!
I say you do a thorough pre & post, BUT that is my OPINION! I would like to know I am safe in my vehicle (18 wheels) at all times! :smt023

 

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That is pretty much how I tell drivers would be the best bet, but they don't always want to waste 30 minutes on both. Many drivers don't mind but I can't get them all to agree! l.o.l.

 

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