Tapping 401k

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by JW430, Jul 27, 2009.

  1. JW430

    JW430 Medium Load Member

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    If I do happen to find myself on the road with you all I would have to roll that 401k into an IRA, and then take out a loan to pay for school (or get on with a company that offers it...but those are very rare without some out of pocket). If I pull out of my 401k then I have $3-4000 to play with that is mine free and clear. Like I said I have 40 years to build up another account. I just want to make sure you guys understand the situation to help get the best advice. Thanks =)
     
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  3. JW430

    JW430 Medium Load Member

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    Actually if my dad is correct about the company-match is mine then I have only put in just over $4200 so I wouldn't be losing much anyway...I actually may come out ahead if taxes aren't too insane.
     
  4. panhandlepat

    panhandlepat Road Train Member

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    that is a positive!
    but.....it could double in 6 months. mine did from march to june i think it was.
     
  5. DsquareD

    DsquareD Road Train Member

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    If you roll it over to an IRA there is no penalty and you can take withdrawals for education. Just fill out a form from the institution that is managing it and save all of your receipts for all education expenses. You may have management fees to pay, like deferred commissions on mutual funds, so if you roll it over into an IRA, keep it in some type of cash account. I used some IRA money recently to cover some education expenses. Talk to an IRA professional at your bank and let them know what you are planning on doing so it gets set up correctly from the start. The taxes will be figured on the year in which you make the withdrawals, so plan that carefully as well if you will be tapping into it near the end of the year.

    I would pinch those pennies very tightly. It is what you are saving for when you can't or don't want to work anymore. Also, apply for a student loan. I just got $2000 for truck driving school and I also have veterans' benefits paying for most of my tuition. I only took about $800 out of one account for books.
     
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  6. rich_t

    rich_t Road Train Member

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    No problem. I know what you are driving at.

    I was trying to keep it simple for the 22 year old person that posed the original question based on the circumstances that he posted.

    But as we get older we (hopefully) become wiser.

    His down side is minimal with a cash out at his age and the invest amount in question.

    Now I'll grant you that with compounded interest over the next 40 years, it might be to his benefit in the long run to leave the money where it is, but there are far too many variables to make a definative decision based on what " may happen".
     
  7. DsquareD

    DsquareD Road Train Member

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    This is why it is best to consult a financial professional who knows your specific needs. I used to work in the financial services business, but have let my licenses lapse about 6 years ago. Find someone you trust and make sure they don't talk you into buying something you don't need, like a mutual fund, because it ups their commission, instead of helping your immediate need.
     
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  8. JW430

    JW430 Medium Load Member

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    Thanks for all the great input guys I really appreciate it =)
     
  9. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    There are different rules on closely held corporations for vesting. It is to protect the employees that work for these operations.

    If he touches the funds, he has 60 days to make a tax free rollover into an IRA to prevent a taxable transaction.

    The amount drawn from the 401 K is subject to the regular income tax rate that is achieved when the proceeds are added to the income. A tax of 10% of the proceeds is then added to the tax due on the return.
     
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  10. DsquareD

    DsquareD Road Train Member

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    Unless the funds taken from the IRA are used for education expenses. Then there is no penalty.
     
  11. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    I had not gotten to your post.

    You are correct on the educational requirement, but strict documentation is needed to protect the exemption.
     
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