Clearly, you can't have juice brakes for a trailer. The old "one line" trailer brakes you are thinking of was for trailers with the old vacuum brakes, which were just as bad. Lot's of straight trucks had juice brakes and hydra-vacs well into the 90's.
Do brake chambers have brake fluid in them?
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Make sure you put your favorite flavored air when adding air in tire , strawberry banana , orange etc ....but you cant mix air of different flavors !FlaSwampRat Thanks this.
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You are correct, pressure is not a reason for using air brakes over hydraulic brakes. If higher pressure were a factor manufacturers would put hydraulic brakes on class 8 vehicles. Hydraulic brakes regularly are working around 1500+psi.not4hire Thanks this.
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I'm not going ready this whole s%÷&show but there's fluid in the air brake system during the winter. Tequila works good and you can drink it later. By pass the air dryer. Cheers
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Also, an air brake system has the means to replenish itself, as opposed to a hydraulic system that may leak.FlaSwampRat, 201, not4hire and 2 others Thank this.
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Hydraulics may have higher pressure but its acting on a much smaller surface area and does not have the mechanical advantage of a slack adjuster or the ramps on the S-cam. So kind of a moot point about pressures.
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Mechanical advantages can be designed, but I’m just saying there are several very good reasons (Some of which have mentioned in this thread) why hydraulics are not feasible and lack of pressure is not one of them. With the pressures hydraulic brakes work at, engineers would seemingly have more problems not over advantaging them.FlaSwampRat, 201 and not4hire Thank this.
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You know, you don't have to reply to every thread... you just don't. And you really shouldn't when you're so egregiously wrong, like you are in this case.
The correct answers have been given, but to summarize; air brakes are used on semis (and trains) because, unlike passenger vehicles (and straight trucks), they are not "closed" systems. Air is made continuously available and replenishes the system which accounts for system breaks (coupling/uncoupling), leakage, poor maintenance, etc.
Air is compressible... hydraulic fluid is not. Air can NEVER provide pressures even remotely close to that which is achievable with fluid.
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The Illinois state issued study guide in section 2 says "shoes or pads with oil, grease or brake fluid on them". Then I seen a YouTube pretrip video and the guy mentioned air line and brake fluid line going to brake chamber.
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