Moving truck in shipper/ consignee lot after 14 hours

Technically you don't have to log anything if it's under 7.5 minutes.

 

Just imagine what it will be like if the Government ever manages to require black boxes in all trucks. I hope it never happens but the discussion happens pretty regular from different anti-truck lobbies.

 

As a further clarification, FMCSR guidance on this stated that "personal conveyance" only counts if it's from/to your home, your terminal, or a place of lodging such as a hotel. Additionally, you cannot be under dispatch, or laden. RickG also posted a convo he had with a veteran FMCSR official about the term "laden" and he said that meant loaded. You can use the truck with an empty trailer as personal conveyance as long as you are not under dispatch, and you are heading to your house for some hometime, or driving to your terminal after coming off hometime but not yet under dispatch (ie, heading to pick up a load.) The only exception to THAT is if the empty trailer is the actual load, IE trailer delivery service.

 

Also, i really don't think line 3 is just for public highways nessesarily; If you are working as a jockey i'm pretty sure this must be line 3.


In my opinion, if it's on private property, moving to park after 10 or 14 hours is cool. Whether legal or not is a different story.

 

If your working as a jockey chances are you don't even keep a log book as you'll be under the 100 air mile radius.

 

You cannot use a a rig for "personal conveyance" if you are deadheading....
That must be logged in on Line 3.....
You may drive to say go get groceries if you are bob-tailing and you log it on Line 1 as "Off duty Driving"....


You must log in line 3 if you say take your rig to the shop or to the truck wash if you have your trailer....or you are bob-tailing...

(And as discussed on another thread....technically anytime you wrench on your rig...you must log it on Line 4...although that by the admission of our resident DOT...would be hard to prove if done on private property and behind a locked gate...)

That is from a DOT officer who did my Carrier's Inspection....

If anyone from CA needs guidance...PM me and I will Pm you his office number.....

 

Correct, no log book because it'd be local. But, from what I've heard, you also don't need a CDL to yard jockey as long as you never leave the company property. I'm not 100% on that though.

 

I wasn't talking about deadheading for purposes of picking up a load. Then you would be under dispatch and as such required to log as line 3. Look, this guidance came directly from the FMCSA's website. Lemme grab the link quick...

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...764&section=395.8&section_toc=1942&guidence=Y

Question 26.

The only thing that is in the air is if an empty trailer counts as laden or not for the purposes of traveling to/from your home of record, terminal or temperary lodging while NOT under dispatch.

Under dispatch, you must log ALL driving, even bobtail, as line 3. I'm kind of curious though about that. Say I unload at 4PM but I have a preplan to load at 10 AM the next day. So I'm at the terminal, bobtail. Am I considered under dispatch still, or only when I am driving to pick up the load? In other words, if I run down to the local greasy spoon bobtail, would I have to log it or not? Hmm.. time to do more research on that too...

 

Under dispatch or not any time you drive or or wrench on a rig will be logged in Lines 3 or 4.....With some exceptions such as going to the store or a restaurant...Bob-tailing only...

I used to take my tractor over to the truck wash bob-tailing....I thought I could log it on Line 1 and call "Driving/Off duty".....I was corrected by a DOT.....Anything connected to rig as far maintenance is duty time......