Alright, so for the past month and a half I have been enrolled at a private CDL driving school, and things have been going great. Each of the instructors there have at least 20+ years experience driving in all types of conditions. I have about 18 or so hours left of lessons, and for the most part am ready for my road test. That being said, there are still some occasions that I find myself missing a gear, either by shifting too slow or just plain not having the right rpms for the next gear. In cases like this, what is the best way to (quickly) recover from missing a gear?
The next question pertains to logbooks. While I realize they are a necessary evil, I cannot say I like the thought of writing in a tiny book, hoping I filled it out correctly and that I accounted for all time on and off duty. My plan was, (assuming that whatever company I work for allows it), to bring my notebook computer and a portable printer, and fill out my daily logbook entries on my computer. I would then store the data on my hard drive and a portable USB drive, and I would also print a hard copy. My question is, would this be an acceptable practice in most states/provinces? (I live in Canada).
P.S. My road test is tomorrow
Shifting and logbook question
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by drdoc, Aug 17, 2009.
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1st)go for the next higher gear. it would sound like the teacher/instructor should work with you more. if they do not, then it sounds like a cdl mill.
2nd) as for using a laptop to do your logs on, it is up to the company whether they will accept them or not. most companies that still use paper logs want you to use their log books. so you will then have to copy down into their books what you did.
now some motor carrier safety enforcement officers will not look at your laptop, they want hard copies. and if you are with a company that has EBORs in the trucks, then your company will fax copies of the logs to the officers. -
The program Daily Drivers Log (google search) is accepted by US DOT. This program is often used by DOT to check your logs for violations. They also have numerous print applications to put it in most major companies formats (Swift, etc). They have a $50 lite version without printing (manual copiy onto your logbooks), or a $100 version which can be printed. It also can switch on the fly between Canadian and US regs.
Even if you manually have to copy the info (I'm too broke for a printer), it has been a lifesaver for me. It's really nice to be able to figure out a US 8/2 split sleeper before you run it and verify your plans are legal.
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Just don't miss a gear going down a steep grade. Get setup before you start, and don't muck with it until you get down!
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In a truck, if you are using the program, you need to be able to print out and sign each days log, therefore, if you are using it for in process(current day) logs, you would need to do one as you went and not even bring up using the computer, unless you have a printer as required to use a computer for logging.
Don't plan too close based on what it tells you, it doesn't take into account all of the things that can happen on a trip. You still might end up out of hours parked in a traffic jam on a road, maybe moving for hours at less than 1 mph. You could still be ticketed for failure to plan properly. -
If you miss the gear because the RPMs fell too fast, or you were too slow, give the stick gentle pressure going into the gear you just missed (IE, if you were going from 6th to 7th, hold it against the slot for 7th). You'll feel a grind, but it won't be loud. Just a rumble really, don't push it too hard and keep grinding it. Anyway, as you apply your gentle pressure also give the throttle some slow, gentle pressure. Bring your RPM up slowly, and the tranny will just fall into gear. As you get used to the truck, the engine, and shifting in general, it is easier and quicker to do this.
If you are going up a hill and miss a gear you might need to try the next lower gear with this technique because you will be losing speed quickly. In fact, I'd say go straight for the next lower gear unless you know you can float it quickly.
Downshifting on a downhill, you must be even QUICKER. Only downshift if you MUST, and then only if you know you can get it done QUICK, even if you miss a gear. Freewheeling (ie, Georgia Overdrive) can become a problem really quick.
Basically, this is the technique used when floating. For your test, it should ONLY be used if you miss your gear. Always double clutch first, float in an emergency, and if all else fails and things look like you are about to die if you don't get it in, JAM it in. You might fail if you do that, but at least you will be alive.
Best thing to do when shifting though is relax! It'll do more for your timing to be relaxed and comfortable then anything else. Drivers who shift really well don't do it because they are "better," just more experienced and therefore calmer when they are driving. Of course, they also don't have a tester sitting right next to them. Good lord, I'm sure if I had to take my test right now, with double clutching, I'd have a hell of a time with it.
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25 2+2 you are correct that you still be careful on your planning, but that program can be a very useful tool. Oh and on the too poor for a printer? Wifey lost her job right after I went into trucking.... SAVE THE HOUSE!! You get the idea.
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I was just telling you about the rule, and I know about being too poor. The thing about violations and fines is that they don't care how poor you are. You use computer for logs, you need a printer, or else you forget to mention you have the computer.
Even if you think you have it all figured out, someone shows up to use your cereal bowl for their urinal.
I can do logs as long as I'm awake and not too much went wrong. I usually fill it out when loading before returning, the info at the top and location at the beginning and what I'm hauling, but forgetting to drop a flag at departure can cost you if you get pulled over by a highwayman wearing a uniform and badge. All duty changes must be noted. It is nice to be able to catch up so that you aren't sitting in the driveway holding up the departure of others because you are filling out a new log sheet. You can't have a duty change marked before it occurs even though you know when it will happen.
I don't even take the puter with me anymore, no time to use it, anyway, not going out and back in 14 hours or less with up to 11 hours of drive time, that's a long night.
I make errors when I'm very tired, then I have to correct those when I am well rested. Sometimes I wake up and look at it and wonder who did that.
One more thing, not every law enforcement officer is out there to make your day miserable, most of them are decent, and if you respect them,they return respect. The goal of enforcement is public safety, and you and yours are a part of that public. -
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I just log it when it happens... 15 seconds, and its up to date. Also, get a ruler and make it neat. The last 5 level III's I've had, they look at the log book for about a minute, and hand it back to me... usually when they see I can correctly log a split break, they're done. Only had one Kansas DOT guy actually check the times vs mileage.
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