Oklahoma Tank Lines / United Petroleum Transports

tankerbloke · Mar 4, 2019

TankerDriver118 said: ↑

Bump.... Thinking of going with upt here in Houston, anyone know the rates? Pct kenan is not hiring owners, you have other companies like Hayes n hayes, s&m, outlaw, Alexander, etc... Any owner ops in any of these fuel carriers? Which one should I go with?
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Don't go to UPT. The Terminal manager is a special kind of evil. She has her fave drivers and everyone else has to fight for the scraps. One driver rents her a beach house at Galveston and he gets whatever he wants.
One day they may fire Kathy and then it may improve ...

LONECHIEF · Mar 17, 2019

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In my opinion, there has never been a more corrupt collection of conspirators inside the Oilfield Industry than that of Carl Bailey, Kenny Mantor and the once reputable company, United Petroleum Transports , whose corporate offices are located in the heart of oilfield country, Oklahoma City, OK.

When I started in the fuel transportation business I was proud to be apart of it. After 14 years I can honestly say that he entire system is a joke. A cruel trick by which large corporations suck the very life out of anyone willing to do their bidding for a small sum of money. Since I began in the fuel transportation business I have come to understand that in order to make any amount of money in energy industries that you must sell your soul to the devil.

I have stabbed people in the back. I have been forced to forgo my moral and ethical standards for a dollar. I have been made to do these things to good employees that threatened the foundation of United Petroleum Transports hidden agenda to rob the industries product for pennies on the dollar. UPT/OTL continues to steel crude while diverting attention away from itself through an ever rotating column of expendable employes who simply learned too much about this morally degenerate, unethical and scandalous company. The very foundation of higher prices at the pump is due to companies like UPT/OTL corrupt nature which effects every person driving a car at the pump.

I'm assuming that you know nothing about the Oilfield industry or the level of corruption that you can find everyday inside the goings on of those companies involved in the transportation of Crude Oil to the Keystone Pipeline and storage farms like found in Cushing, OK, refineries or the simple delivery of Ethanol, Diesel and other crude based products to your local gas station.

I'm writing this as a measure to inform anyone willing to listen of my personal experiences at UPT/OTL as well as my personal opinions regarding their business practices, especially inside the oilfield industry. I will also share eyewitness accounts of UPT's cut throat tactics to keep customers using UPT/OTL services while raping the oilfield industries major producers such as Chesapeake, Devon and Sandridge.

Not only has UPT/OTL conspired to embarrass, and then steal the business of other other crude transportation workers by stealing oil off of their assigned wells, but it has done so in such a scandalous manner as to not be caught by those companies, as well as others seeking to provide services in Crude Oil Transportation in Oklahoma and Texas- thus hurting the industry, driving prices up and providing unsafe transportation of hazardous materials to gas stations throughout Oklahoma. Just look at their CSA/DAK scores.

United Petroleum Transports, aka Oklahoma Tank Lines, has blamed their own failings to deliver crude oil to their customer "Gavilon" due to outright theft of crude taken right off the tank batteries in the oilfields of Wheeler County Texas. This according to the new head of the Crude Oil Division for United Petroleum Transports Kenny Mantor.

The fact is that Mantor and UPT/OTL is stealing this oil right our from under their customers noises while counting on the lack of security in the oilfield, the inability of the "Pumpers" to keep up with and maintain accurate levels of crude oil and the ongoing inability to regulate security measures (like locks, personnel and pipeline overflights) on the oil storage tanks in the oilfields of North Texas. They have used the Oilfield industries failings to their advantage by removing crude oil from unauthorized wells and delivering it to unauthorized persons (mostly illegal aliens from Mexico) for a mere fraction of the products total value, while blaming the loss, or missing crude, on "other unauthorized companies" like Barcass Oilfield Services, EastTex Transportation, Guardian, Connect and other oilfield service companies. They have made millions of dollars while hiding in plan sight of the public, the Oklahoma Corporation Commission, the Texas Railroad Commission and the Environmental Protection Agency.

UPT/OTL has maintained a monopoly and tight control of the cost and flow of fuel in Oklahoma and Texas, raising prices beyond the recommended sales price at the pump. UPT/OLT has stolen, in my opinion, untold thousands of dollars to keep itself in business over the 25 years that they have been delivering fuel products to gas pumps in Oklahoma and Texas raising the cost of the fuel to unacceptable levels which has done nothing but cost each person using their delivered fuel products money at the pump to the tune of millions of dollars.
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Yeah..what they said!

Dh46 · Feb 22, 2020

Any owner ops with Upt can u tell me are they good or bad okc area? Thanks

Octrucker · Sep 10, 2020

Well they had a regional they were advertising that you get home every couple days. But I think I might have to count them out since they're slim shady.

zetrad · Oct 1, 2020

Dh46 said: ↑

Any owner ops with Upt can u tell me are they good or bad okc area? Thanks
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I worked for UPT in OKC since 2010. As a company driver from 2010 to 2017 when I bought a truck till May 2020 when me and 15+ O/O's were laid off out of OKC because of Covid. They are not hiring ANY O/O's at all right now in OKC. They are focusing more on Company Drivers and hiring alot of them. Still talk to the drivers up there and for O/O's loads are slim.. It is very slow. So no, I would not recommend going with them right now. I even heard they laid off drivers all across the other terminals.
Last year I was avg 4-6k every 2 weeks, but I didn't work as hard due to heath and mainly did long runs like to Amarillo, etc. It was a good company to work for, keyword, WAS.... Even over the years the pay was getting smaller and smaller due to them skimmin from the top... and... the bottom!!!! They should only be getting paid from load pay but they would get the % from even detention, pump, splits, everything.. For one, pumps belongs to the truck, uses the trucks equipment, oil, fuel, wear and tear on the truck but yet they would get a % from it which everyone hated. The only good thing and why most drivers including self stayed so long was for the shop. Not just the shop but a certain tech in the shop. He always would help us when we needed it.. And since I have been gone I still call on him and he still calls me etc..

All and all UPT is not a good Idea to go with right now.. There was not any fuel companies in OKC that was hiring any O/O's from Mar 2020 - even now. Only if they fire or let someone go! and you have to be fast or know someone to get on.
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