“The brokers make too much”

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Long FLD, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

    Mar 4, 2015
    So you must be ok with someone (the government) dictating how much you’re allowed to make?
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  3. Bob2365

    Bob2365 Bobtail Member

    Apr 4, 2020
    Here is a thought about the broker situation. What about something like load boards. How many load boards does an average driver subscribe to at one time? kinda like a broker membership!
  4. Brettj3876

    Brettj3876 Road Train Member

    Nov 18, 2014
    Land of local
    Here so many are welcoming socialism with open arms w/o even realizing it. Leaders and officials straight up saying you wanna have that get together with friends, will cite you and even arrest you. (Chicago), the food rationing has begun. The writing is on the wall folks. The mindless zombies wearing masks in their own cars with no one but themselves in it. 1st hand witnessed it in newark today. 4 out of 5 people, I stopped counting. Who knows maybe they had some Icebreakers mints that smelled good, yeah that's probably it.Never mind what the brokers make, get your ### ready and God forbid you live in a high density metropolitan area. GTFO now.

    A year ago if someone said This was gonna happen i could just imagine the responses. It could never happen to us, we wouldn't stand for that. You're not just standing for it, your embracing it with open arms and bearing gifts like it's the birth of Christ.

    You wanna be free nation well it's not for the faint hearted, you give 200% to reap its benefits, and there's a #### good chance you might not make it anyways. That's the American dream. You make it what you do, not cry out to someone else to handle when #### doesn't go as planned.
  5. clausland

    clausland Road Train Member

    Dec 5, 2014
    North Woods
    Spot on. Like I said to you previously, you had some good mentors growing up, just like I did. Glad to see there's still some of us left...
  6. Bob2365

    Bob2365 Bobtail Member

    Apr 4, 2020
    One thing you have to keep in mind is if you are getting a brokered load then that is the brokers customer. It defiantly does suck the way the system is because drivers are getting screwed. There is no way the government can cap them. they would have to cap everyone at that point. For instance my dad had to take humera shots the cost of the shot through his insurance HIS PART was like 1700.00 per shot one shot per week pretty pricey. BUT you can call the manufacture and get like a coupon and then the meds are free.. Figure that mark up.. Unfortunatly this was an issue when i drove over the road 20 years ago The only way to get the attention is going to be a shut down
  7. ValentinMichigan2018

    ValentinMichigan2018 Bobtail Member

    Nov 5, 2018
    The Whole issue i see is linked to lack of transparency on brokers side.
    Let’s compare tire shop argument. Sure you don’t ask how much is tire shop purchased it for , but using same brand for a while for same vehicle and do some research on tirerack.com or other website and you know what profit margins the tire shop has.
    Even you look at 15 Days Average price on a line, and check the broker’s offer is a lot of times huge discrepancies , up to 60% sometime.
    Is too obvious owner op gets burned. How that I can run 15 times same load for 1600$ and in the 16th day you want me to do it for $900?
  8. Midwest Trucker

    Midwest Trucker Road Train Member

    Aug 31, 2018
  9. 062

    062 Road Train Member

    Oct 20, 2013
    Have you ever looked at your own statement from a different point of view? If you can take the load for $900 why would you charge the broker $1600? Are you trying to make what you consider a fair profit or are you being vindictive and trying to cause the broker financial harm?
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  10. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

    Apr 12, 2016
    On a moral side of things?
    Because he is the one getting things done.
    Without him, the product would not move.

    By demanding $1600 he is sending a message to a shipper via broker that supply and demand equilibrium is changing.
    Brokers are post stamps here - facilitators.
    They should be paid for their auxiliary services accordingly but the core transaction/process is between the shipper and their product hauler.

    I don't have a problem with a broker institution as such. I have a problem with them overstepping their being a transaction agent bounds by undertaking the role of a shipper - carrier transaction price setter and then further thwarting that price. I would hope that transparency and commission would bring the shipper - carrier relationship back to normal.
    Last edited: May 5, 2020
  11. FoolsErrand

    FoolsErrand Road Train Member

    Sep 15, 2017
    Because another TRUCKER came along and hauled it for $900 in his ignorance.

    Its truckers screwing truckers to the bottom dollar now, and brokers saying 'its my turn to win back what i lost to the truckers in 2018.'

    [Secret Double brokers aside. Meaning those who book as a carrier MC then repost as a broker MC. They are a leach and govt SHOULD put harsh penalties on that practice as it ends in lots of unpaid parties. Its almost piracy. But legitimate, originating contracted broker of a shipper's freight, let the free market control them. ]
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