'01 9400 AC issues

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  1. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    My AC is no longer working and I can't figure out why. I did have the radiator replaced last week, but it doesn't seem to be related.

    dash/blower fan works
    When I turn on A/C button, I hear the typical sounds (underhood/dash air-actuated click & condenser fan coming on)
    The compressor apparently is not getting power. The fuse is getting power
    When the shop jumped power to the compressor, it was running backwards? But there is only 1 wire.


    Are there any quirks particular to the 9400 that might explain this? It has the 12.7 detroit if it matters. Can anyone recommend a good shop (preferably in the northern US)? I'm leaning towards taking it to a dealer as opposed to a dedicated AC shop, but open to ideas...
     
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  3. Heavyd

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    Check to see if you have an APADs module. You didn't say what year your truck is, but they are typically mounted on the left side of the firewall near the coolant reservoir. It should have a green LED on. If it has a red LED on you can try to reset it by cycling the key off and on 4 times in 4 seconds. Other than that there is many things to cause no power to the compressor. I highly recommend an International dealer because they will know your truck the best and have the proper wire diagrams. A general A/C shop may waste a lot of time and also your money from scratching their heads.
     
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  4. double yellow

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    It's an '01.

    I'm leaning that way (international dealer). My main hesitation is the fact I've retrofit an engine brake so if they want to install a new wiring harness it won't be the plug & play solution they might expect...
     
  5. Heavyd

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    That should have absolutely nothing to do with the a/c. A new harness would never been needed. If you have broken wire you re-run that wire only, not a new harness.
     
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  6. Old Man

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    How can the compressor run backwards? No power to comp is probably low freon, the low pressure switch will cut off power to power to compressor
     
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  7. Smellfunny

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    If you don't have APADS. Check top two circuit breakers on left side to see if they are tripped. Then check second relay down on left and then there is one more relay on bottom row. I think it is the sixth over. It will be on fuse panel. Check those and then stop back by.
     
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    That is after you make sure you have proper charge.
     
  9. Old Man

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    I had a 9400 with a 12.7, nothing any good a/c shop can't repair.
     
  10. Skate-Board

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    First off, a compressor cannot run backwards. It's belt driven. The compressor will NOT turn on if there isn't enough refrigerant in the system. My guess is that they either broke a hose or flexed one enough for all the refrigerant to escape when they replaced your radiator. They had to either move your condenser or take it out. That would have released all your gas.

    Any shop can put a gauge on there and measure the pressure. That would be your first step. You can also buy a few cans of gas and see if the clutch engages on the compressor. Like I said, the clutch will NOT engage unless there is enough gas in the system
     
  11. double yellow

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    Fuses, relays, and breakers checked. No ACADs unit that I could see, but I cycled the key 4 times anyway -- no change in AC (but the engine did start unusually rough, which smoothed out within a few seconds)

    They did check the charge, and how they (TA) described it to me was that when they jumped power to the compressor to get it to run, their gauges would move in the opposite direction of what they were supposed to (low went down, high went up -- or maybe vice versa -- but it was opposite of normal).

    If the shop that installed the radiator had removed the AC hoses, they could not have put them on backwards -- the length of one hose was too short to reach the wrong part of the condenser.


    I have had occassional cruise/jake interruptions too (much less often since I put in a new clutch switch, but still happens especially on rough roads). Other posts by heavy D suggest the wiring harness behind the top of the engine tends to get problematic which made me think the two might be related...
     
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