05 Pete 379 - parking brake issue - "bleeds" air if Air Pressure is below 100 PSI

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  1. indy_colts_fan

    indy_colts_fan Bobtail Member

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    It's been a month and $3000 later and I still cant seem to find anyone who can resolve this issue. I have a 2005 Pete 379 that started to have brake issues. First it was building 150 PSI constant or just not build air pressure at all... new Air Dryer filter and Governor... Then on came the issue where the parking brake "bleeds" air if the air pressure is below 100 PSI and will continue to "bleed" air until the air pressure drop below 60 psi and the knob pops out. It doesnt do this all the time... it is random... To get around this issue, you apply parking brake, build air pressure to 120 psi and release.

    Let me try to explain what I mean by "bleeding" air. In General, when you release the emergency or trailer brake, you get a slight "bleed" or "release" of air for several seconds and then it stops... make sense, hopefully.

    I've taken it to 2 different Peterbilt shops... they both replaced the entire valve assembly, claiming that it was faulty. I took it to a service shop here in the town I'm working in and he isnt sure, as his first step would be to replace the valve assembly...

    Anyone have any ideas? I can still operate the vehicle safely... its just a pain in the ace to deal with.
     
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  3. bender

    bender Road Train Member

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    Which knob on the valve causes the air loss? I assume you are pulling a trailer?
     
  4. Mark Kling

    Mark Kling Technology Contributor

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    Have they checked the actual air compressor on the engine? I had a valve go bad and all I did was lose air. It was some sort of check valve in the air compressor.

    The other issue I had was the Air brake valve was loosing air so I tore the dash apart looking for an air leak... come to find out that the air brake valve will leak if you have an air leak elsewhere.. mine was on the trailer.

    Mark
     
  5. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    if you hear any type of noise coming from the valve. you've got a leak. specially if it stops when the valve is pulled.

    sometimes if it's in the valve the handle can be wiggled to stop.
     
  6. indy_colts_fan

    indy_colts_fan Bobtail Member

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    I an pulling a trailer and it is only the parking knob.
     
  7. indy_colts_fan

    indy_colts_fan Bobtail Member

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    I had both the Pete service and the local truck repair check the compressor... they all 3 said it was functioning properly.
     
  8. indy_colts_fan

    indy_colts_fan Bobtail Member

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    I will go thru the truck and trailer and see if I can locate any sort of leak. The truck does lose air... if it's parked for 3 or 4 days
     
  9. bender

    bender Road Train Member

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    With the tractor and trailer having separate parking knobs, you may be able to determine if the air loss is in your tractor or your trailer by pulling the trailer knob when the leak occurs. If the leak subsides by setting the trailer brakes but not the tractor brakes then you know you have a leak at either the tractor protection valve or the relay valve in the trailer.
     
  10. indy_colts_fan

    indy_colts_fan Bobtail Member

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    The issue originally started when I was bob-tailin back to the shop and stopped for fuel, but I will give it this a try
     
  11. bender

    bender Road Train Member

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    In that case, you already know that the air loss problem is in the tractor unless you mistakenly pushed both knobs in without a trailer.
     
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