1 ton and car trailer to save money.

Discussion in 'Car Hauler and Auto Carrier Trucking Forum' started by Reubster24, Aug 11, 2013.

  1. Reubster24

    Reubster24 Bobtail Member

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    Well folks here's what I have going. I work for my father-in-law buying cars for his 3 salvage yards in MI. I live in the Philly area and buy quite a few cars around here and have them shipped to Mi. I would like to get a 1 ton pickup because I will be only making 1 trip a week at 1600 miles round trip at most with 3-4 cars per trip. Will use it as my daily vehicle as well so a s/a sleeper is no good. Not worried about sleeping ether since my trip is only 10 hrs each way. All my family lives in Mi so my main objective is to have a free ride to MI whenever I want. Not to considered with driving back empty but might start trying to find loads back once I get started and get the hang of it. My main ? is what licencing and legal stuff do I need to have to be 100% DOT legal. The truck and trailer will most likely be personally owned and fuel will get put on my fuel card. I will probably get paid a little extra in my check when I haul a load so I don't know if I would be considered personal or commercial.
    I will get my CDL just to be on the safe side. What about insurance, Dot #, IFTA, and everything else that might be involved in this type of thing? Would I need to insure the cargo if it is mostly wrecked cars and owned by my father-in-laws salvage yard? What about truck scales? Do I have to stop? Guess thats all my ?s for now. Any help would be appreciated.
     
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  3. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    You will need motor carrier authority. That costs $300 for the filing fee if you do it yourself. A few years ago the feds changed the rules about getting your authority. You no longer need cargo insurance. You do need a minimum of $750,000 in auto liability. If you plan on finding loads from brokers or shippers to get back home, you will usually need a minimum of $1 million in auto liability and $100,000 in cargo. You will also need to file and pay your UCR and get a IFTA account. You will also need to purchase an apportioned base plate if you haul interstate. If you haul through New Mexico, Kentucky or New York, you will need their permits. If you are only going to haul your father in law's cars then you may get by without having to buy cargo insurance. Whether you need to enter scales will depend on how much weight you plan on putting on your cab card. Some states require all trucks enter the weigh station.
     
  4. Dorsey

    Dorsey Medium Load Member

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    Hauling cars youll need $1, 000, 000 liability.
     
  5. Reubster24

    Reubster24 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the replies. Another question is how do people with this type of setup avoid being over weight? Does DOT not care if the truck is over its recommended combined GVWR? What about the trailer? 20,000 gvw minus 5500-6000 for trailer weight and you only have 14000-14500 for cars. 3 Suvs/trucks or 4 cars is going to be very close to that and probably over. So question is do they not care about weight just that the truck has all the right numbers, licencing and insurance?
     
  6. deskdriver

    deskdriver Light Load Member

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    Oh they definently care, fines for getting cought can be large and if you happen to be involved in a fatal accident while over weight you get a 1 way pass to go see bubba. If you can not do it legally do not do it.
     
  7. Reubster24

    Reubster24 Bobtail Member

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    So what weight do they go by? The manufactures recommended or what you register it for?
     
  8. Pullin2

    Pullin2 Crusty Canuck

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    A pre-engineered product's spec's ALWAYS trump recommendations or registrations. Period. It (these days) always boils down to liability in the court of law and the court of compensation.
     
  9. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    You need to make sure that you register your truck for the maximum you plan on hauling. Of course, you still don't want to exceed the maximum weight restrictions from the manufacturer. When in doubt, weigh. There are CAT scales all over the country. If you are uncertain about your weights then you should find a CAT scale and check your weight. In fact, it would probably be a good idea to check anyway, especially in the beginning. As long as you are hauling cars, it should be a non issue. If you put on 1 ton pick ups or larger SUV's you may want to weigh just for the peace of mind.
     
  10. truckon

    truckon Swamp Thing

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    DOT go by axle /tire ratings, providing your not over your registered weight.

    GVWR is to determine what class license you need.
     
  11. bigcountry1967

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