Those are horrible scores especially the top one but yet their rating is satisfactory.Just what does the DOT consider unsatisfactory.
10 day training? Are you high?
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Who lost their DOT privileges?
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IMO this is what happens when you get reactive marrying your Med Card to your CDL.
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I am missing your point?
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Overall the company I posted as a decent rating, with the exception of driver fitness. So when Feb started and you were required to have your CDL and Med Card married several drivers didn't. As a result they didn't have valid CDL's. Upon DOT inspections it gets found out, CSA basic rises. So had the company been proactive, and made sure every new driver coming in was compliant, and every current driver was compliant in lets say, Nov 13, the scores would be lower. No reason to exceed the threshold.
On a different note, percentile ranking is still dumb. Let's say this company exceeds a different threshold for unsafe violations. Then they're in a new peer group and the scores all change. Most go up, some go down. The system is flawed and isn't a good measurement of safety, and barely measures compliance.25(2)+2 Thanks this. -
percentile rating, means that 25% of all companies are always out of compliance. No matter how safe the entire industry is. It generates revenue.
As I posted earlier, 50% of watkins shepards unsafe driving is due to speeding tickets... which no amount of training is going to change, as it is up to the individual driver to make that choice to speed.Boardhauler Thanks this. -
I guess I am not getting a answer to my questions. Who is the company? Why did they loose there DOT number? What is your point with posting the rating to a defunct unnamed company? How does that all relate to Watkins & Shepard?
As far as the ratings system I am glad it exists. In fact it should be more intensive. I can look up any company in mire seconds and determine or confirm what I see elsewhere. No surprise many companies do not like that. They have been rooking drivers over for years in their much unjust raking system with no appeal.
Unlike drivers, these companies are graded on a curve and still they protest. How unfair to be graded on a curve! On top of it all they lobbied for the inverse percentile to confuse people about the grading system. And now, they have lobbied to push the percentile rankings on separate pages to hide their poor safety record even more. Sometime the truth hurts! -
No matter what all the companies do, 25% will always be out of compliance... It keeps the DOT employed, and generates revenue.
And the dot compares all companies over 150 trucks together... so Watkins shepard is compared to werner who has 10 times the trucks. -
I talk to her from time to time.. she completed her training, got assigned a truck and is rolling along fine..
Not every driver has the luxury of just going to other companies... I know for me the biggest plus werner has is that they have a terminal just down the street from mh house... that is important to me because my elderly father moved in after having an aorta rupture... he was lucky to survive as 95% don't make it to the hospital in time..
With werner having a terminal right by my house I have been able to get home on short notice.. they routed me to the terminal to split my load so I could go attend to my father.. I got there within 4 hours of him calling... so for me, werner works well.. I am on a good account, home weekends and able to get home quick enough if needed.. not a lot of companies can offer me that.. I love my father dearly and I care more abojt being able to get home when needed for mh dad than I do needing the approval of other drivers who wont like me because I drive for werner..
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They did not loose anything, still operating.
I seldom have a point, but if were going to use CSA scores to judge whether or not a company is safe we should analyze the CSA system and the flaws within the system. Someone has to be 100%, but what exactly does that mean, who is their peer group and how many negative inspections did they have?
95% of this thread has nothing to do with Watkins and Shepard.
So while this company has a score in the 90's within 2 months that score could be in the 40's or less. I'm glad there is something because it does require carriers to take notice and attempt to make changes. However a high CSA score doesn't make a company more unsafe than a company with a lower score. It just makes them more likely to get inspected. So once your scores are low, then a company can just micromanage drivers for items that fall under the unsafe category. As they keep their scores low and unsafe violations under a threshold number scores will continue to drop.
So let's say this month I'm 1 inspection below my threshold number for my peer group and my scores are 41, 38, 20, 0, and 21. During this month I pick up more negative inspections than I drop off, now I'm in a different peer group and my scores are 89, 93, 78, 0, and 85. Do the scores accurately depict if a company is doing a good job?zmpart Thanks this.
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