10 days of total car hauling training and 0ne day of driving behind the wheel.

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by JoelhillOhio, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. JoelhillOhio

    JoelhillOhio Bobtail Member

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    Hello Forum,

    I need some advise from the experienced drivers. I have not driven a tractor trailer in over 6 yrs and never operated a car hauler. I drove for two years a 53 ft box in the past. In the past ten days my trainer taught me alot in regards to loading,unloading and chaining down the vehicles. I'm not 100% clear still on how to stagger the vehicles during the loading process. Keep in mind your dealing with cars,trucks, and vans.I feel about 80% confident with loading the cars,working the hydraulic and decks is tricky. In a very short period of time and working a few 16 hr days, only one day was spent behind the wheel driving.


    I have nothing but good to say about my trainer. Time is always a factor to earning money over the road and being paid a percentage of the load. He wanted to push it as much as possible to earn while being paid to train me. At this point I'm not comfortable with the amount of training time behind the wheel after 6yrs of being away. I was allowed 9 hrs of drive time in one day for the total ten days. Do I have a reason to be concerned.

    On average we drove 400 plus miles a day loaded/unloaded @14 cars ea day. My last day in training he drove 480 miles, I worked 16.5hrs in total loaded/unloaded 18 cars and ended up sleeping in the back of a car that was loaded on the trailer. As you can see I'm not affraid to work and can deal with the conditions that come with the job.

    They wanted me in today an hour ago to head out by myself in a day cab to do the job. I have a call in to my dispatcher to explain my position on the situation. Waiting for the call back. I have a perfect drivers record and never a ticket or accident. I'm 36 yrs old and pride myself on being safe.

    Should I have just took the gamble and headed out? What's your opinion on this. Need some sound advise from a professional driver. Is one day of driving enough for the past 6 yrs to take on all this responsibility?

    Thank you for the input.

    Respectfully,
    Joel
     
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  3. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    To me, driving a truck/trailer is like riding a bike. I would be clueless where to begin with a car hauler gig. It's good that you feel "about 80%" regarding the staging, loading, and securing of the cars. It's all about how you feel regarding your abilities to navigate a rig safely down the road. be careful to avoid high grade crossings. Good luck, and best wishes regardless.
     
  4. JoelhillOhio

    JoelhillOhio Bobtail Member

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  5. seabring

    seabring Road Train Member

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    If you're not comfortable with going it on you're own then in my opinion you did the right thing by telling them your concerns. Better that than wrecking a truck or load. I think you did the right thing for your situation. Ask for some more wheel time with the trainer and see what they say.
     
  6. JoelhillOhio

    JoelhillOhio Bobtail Member

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    Thanks KW9s. I spoke with the dispatcher as of an hour ago. He acted as if the only importance was for me to learn the equipment. He had nothing to say about the one day of drive time behind the wheel. He is well aware that I have not driven in 6yrs. Operating these trucks loaded is much different than a box. The length and handling under the load doesn't feel in the same behind the wheel. The cars are hanging off attached to 4 chains one on top of another at an steep angled grade from the decks.

    The guy didn't offer any further suggestions as to my direction in training or with the comapny. I'm at a loss for the next step with this company. I'm putting a call in to the owner that hired me. If not, it looks like I'm looking for another opportunity in the business. I enjoy trucking and will move forward with it one way or another. Just needed a little more behind the wheel time in training.
     
  7. jonboy29

    jonboy29 Light Load Member

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    Why did you take on such a challenging job if you had been off for 6 yrs and were conserned with the driving aspect?
    Not to be mean or degrading, but I think they hired you to haul cars, and offered you training to haul cars. You were supposed to be an experienced driver.
    I don't know too many car haul outfits that take on inexperienced drivers. Your application must have shown some experience?

    If you didnt take the trip because you weren't rested, you did right.
    If you didn't take the trip because you weren't comfortable with loading/unloading, then ask for more training.
    If you didn't take the trip because you aren't comfortable driving, then you should have stuck with what you knew, vans. Maybe started locally or shunting?
    Refresher courses are offered at driving schools, this might have settled your mind.

    Did the company road test you? If you passed that, then you should get back on the horse, and ride.
    The driving part will come back to you if you feel rusty. Just take her slow and be extra careful and vigilant.
    This is just my opinion, take it for what its worth...... nothing!lol.
     
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  8. JoelhillOhio

    JoelhillOhio Bobtail Member

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    Karhaulr,

    Thank you for the reply. At no point did I lead them to believe I had any experience in this aspect of the business. After they checked out my past stable work history, perfect MVR,passing their insurance requirements,background check,drug testing I was hired no further questions asked. They knew from my upfront conversation that it had been years since operating a tractor trailer. Was I eager to take the job behind the wheel and get started back? My application had nothing at all about driving since 2005 a 53 ft box with Sigma.

    My trainer basicly said your driving today the third day into the position. I drove from Obetz Ohio to Lima Ohio then to Troy Mi. No problems during the trip. At no point did I drive afterward for training.

    I guess I was looking for more drive time with a trainer. Maybe, I should have gone with a carrier with a 6 week training program for freight instead. Car hauling is one of the most complex in trucking period. I have found this out the hard way working 65hrs a week in 5 day work week at $50 bucks a day busting my ###. The trainer said most don't show back up after the first few days or leave a Rig/trailer at an auction the first day out before trying to load it. At no point did I plan on doing either. Good common sense in the past 20 years of driving a 4 wheeler have kept me without accidents or tickets. I had to make the right call on this as well.
     
  9. jonboy29

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    Joel, your trainer was right. Most don't come back. But look at the seniority list. Many 20-30 plus year drivers. That says alot these days.
    Car haul is a funny thing, either you have it, or you don't. Its a good gig, but the learning curve is a long one.
    In the loading department if you go slow and do what they showed you, it will come together one day.
    I wasn't questioning you about carhaul experience. I was asking about your driving experience.
    In car haul, driving the truck is the easiest thing you'll do. It's almost like break time.....lol.

    If they passed you on a road test, drug test, insurance, back ground check and all the other checks, then I'd say they see you fit to work for them. You did mention you weren't comfortable with the decks and levers. Practise is about the only way you will. They know this, and they know damage is expected.
    If you damage a car, you will feel sick to your stomach, and probably the dumbest guy alive. Well, we have all been there, and you're not the first. The company will be upset, but it happens.

    Your trainer should have let you drive more. A stinger steer isn't a regular truck. They handle differently, and turn like a super tanker in port. Its nothing I don't think you couldn't do. Its just different.
    You know to watch the height, over passes and trees. You know to watch for small dips and humps in the road you might get hung up on, and railway tracks.
    You know the turn rate, so you don't squish the first unit in the trailer.
    You have watched the trainer, and I hope he gave you pointers on driving a stinger.

    Joel, I guess what I'm trying to say is, since the company see's you as fit, and the trainer passed you, and your are hired...... go to work. Go slow, be careful, watch your step on the equipment, drive slowly, and get a feel.
    In a month, evaluate the job. At that point, you will know what the job is about, the loads, the office workings and the equipment. And have a few bucks in your pocket.

    Sorry if I came across negitivly, I'm just old and grumpy.
    Read the car haul section on here, and free free to ask for help with stuff, there are many on here willing to help with tons of experience. Some even grumpy!lol
     
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  10. Allow Me.

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    Well, you not showing up for work has probably cost you the job, since they planned on you taking a load. You DO have trucking experience, even though it's from a few years ago. Maybe not your "cup of tea". :ogre:
     
  11. JoelhillOhio

    JoelhillOhio Bobtail Member

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    Guys thank you for all the input. The advise and concern is appreciated. I have not talked with the owner yet. He's a nice guy and wants saftey first above all. I hate to let people down that have extened me and opportunity to earn. Driving a box never stressed me like this has. These trucks handle nothing like it and take the most attention to detail. I called at 8am on the dot to talk with dispatch, then 10 mins later to leave another message. The dispatcher seemed fine about it when he returned my call. Not sure what my standings are till I speak with the main guy.
     
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