If I am under 100 air mile exemption, I understand that I will not have to keep a log unless I do not meet the criteria, (within 100 air miles, and return to work location within 12 hours, keep time record). What if I do not drive for the day (work at the shop, training, whatever), and it goes over 12 hours? Do I then have to keep a log for the day, just showing the on-duty time. I cannot find any guidance in part 395 or elsewhere.
thank you,
Dave D.
100 air mile exemption- on duty only days
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Ohio Dave D, Dec 11, 2019.
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@FlaSwampRat ... any input? I don't run the 100'mile anymore; when I did I sure didn't pick up extra shifts at the yard, LoL. Thought maybe you'd know, to help this ^^^ fellow buckeye out?!?!?
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Log book is only for over 12 hours. Yard work, shop, etc is just hourly work like a warehouse worker with no need to log. I'm sure the armchair lawyers will come in and tell me how wrong I am but that's the way I do it and I do literally EVERYTHING you can do in a trucking company hence why @G13Tomcat tagged me. If you work the yard before or after your shift on the road I wouldn't sweat logging it. Just keep up on over 12 on road.
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Used to be no logs needed but I did it before electronic logs. Only rule was your first BOL went in the dog box after 10 hours and don't forget what time you "started". After everyone doing that for so many years it's smart of you to check if they require e-logs now.
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I saw extra work supposed to take off from your 70-hour IRS can do something if they suspect it.
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If you are exempt; you are exempt.
Remember, there is no rule on how long you can work; just on driving.
A day in the shop is not driving and as long as you have the required ten hours rest BEFORE driving you met the HOS rules...still counts toward your 70.G13Tomcat and FlaSwampRat Thank this. -
It's not armchair lawyering when there is guidance about it.
Yes, you have to show all on duty time on logs. Anything over 12 hours requires a paper log (or ELD if over 8 days in 30)
Here is the guidance, and although it mentions a second employer, it applies just as much to the motor carrier too.
Question 11: Is a driver who works for a motor carrier on an occasional basis and who is regularly employed by a non-motor carrier entity required to submit either records of duty status or a signed statement regarding the hours of service for all on-duty time as “on-duty time” as defined by §395.2?
Guidance:
Yes.
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