11 Michigan men charged in major U.S. diesel engine tampering case

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  1. scoobertdoo

    scoobertdoo Road Train Member

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    Some are programed to read half, 3/4 or full. It's all up to the hacker who does it and how good they are
     
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  3. scoobertdoo

    scoobertdoo Road Train Member

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    You are an idiot to delete before the warranty is up, or close to it. Unless you have a problem truck. I've heard of some sitting for 6 months waiting for parts ... For the emissions system. But that might be over?
     
  4. AModelCat

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    We'd update everything that had a laptop plugged into it if it was outdated. Takes about 10-15 minutes to update it. Not a big deal to start the process and let it update while you're setting up to do the repair.
     
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  5. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    That would honestly piss me off and has pissed me off many times. Its happened to my ram 3 times now and its NOT deleted. No def on it since its a 2012 and was never equiped from the factory, but the egr and everything are factory stock and work happily and i maintain the ever loving #### out of them to the point my truck typically burns CLEANER then a stock 3500.

    I just have a custom program running on the ECM that tunes the engine much better, since the factory settings dont work with a lot of my aftermarket stuff like custom injectors, larger turbo, timeing ect. and the factory program causes it to run real rough and start to smoke and backfire from running so rich. Ive put do not update ECM on the work order and they do that to "spite me" for a "delete" and then i gotta pull my ecm and send it off to be fixed AGAIN which runs around $4500. And yes i did end up forceing the shops to pay for it since it wasnt a delete just a custom tune.

    That said this is why i keep waffleing on putting a cat in my pete dispite being legal and costing vastly less then new garbage. i get the feeling "wonderful" people like good or cat here would intentionally #### with it even if the repower is perfectly legal and shown on the paperwork.

    Oh and also a good delete by someone who knows what they are doing leaves the little def needle working fine. Or in some cases has a second ECM that is not deleted and is set up to act like everything is normal and accepts updates.
     
  6. Oxbow

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    Do you ask the owner first?
     
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  7. AModelCat

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    We were told update everything unless told otherwise.
     
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  8. Long FLD

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    My local Peterbilt did this to a guy’s truck. He had to get it towed out. Lol.

    Now when you check your truck in you sign a sheet saying your emission system is intact and that you’re aware they will hook up to the ECM.
     
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  9. skallagrime

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    I know this primarily has been focused on later model vehicles, my question is on older engines, whats the protocol? (Say 3406e, its not like theyre updating that one monthly...)
     
  10. Ky Flash

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    Simple fix carry extra ECM swap it out before you take it to the shop.
     
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