12.7 detroit MAJOR PROBLEM -NEED ASSISTANCE TROUBLESHOOTING

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by RAGIN CAJUN, Jul 3, 2014.

  1. TwinStickPeterbilt

    TwinStickPeterbilt Heavy Load Member

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    To much ether. Use ether like you gotta pay big bucks for it other wise you crack a ring or a piston then you are screwed.
     
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  3. RAGIN CAJUN

    RAGIN CAJUN Light Load Member

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    Yeah u right...what I'm gonna do is after the holidays go back and retry starting it after I put a slo trickle on them..if it don't start I'll video it from beginning to end and try n put it on here at least a link to it if I can't post the video....so u guys can. See what its doing but if all else fails then I'll call my mechanic who charges $60 a hour hell probly go straight to it and charge me a flat rate to fix it...if its something I can't handle on my own...I can handle pretty much the basic part changing stuff like alternators,battery's.ac problems.power steering pump,belts hoses.tires.greasing the truck,you know the basic things that get u stuck on side DA road not the MAJOR THINGS LIKE HEAD GASKETS,TRANSMISSION WORK- THINGS THAT REQUIRE BIG MACHINE SHOP TOOLS LIKE A EXCAvaTOR TO PULL HEADS OFF ....so l will take it from there thanks to all the guys who put their input in.IT SHOWS THAT TRUCKING BROTHERHOOD STILL EXIST AND ONE FELLOW TRUCKER IS STILL WILLING TO HELP ANOTHER FELLOW TRUCKER OUT!!
     
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  4. dynogt16

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    I'd check your fuel pump make sure your getting fuel. Check air filters for restriction, pay attention to your turbo, and start at your batteries check grounds first. Also listen to your starter if it was dragging then stopped you may have a shorting starter.
     
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  5. RAGIN CAJUN

    RAGIN CAJUN Light Load Member

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    My starter has been goin out for a while, but it just started acting up today so I kno I have to change that, I can deal with all the minor things just kind of worried about that clacking noise I heard.But im kpn fingers crossed.it #### near sound like it threw a rod, but i dont think its that severe, only one way to find out
     
  6. GrapeApe

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    Too much starting fluid will make that noise, sounds like a very bad rod knock. It sounds like you have a fuel problem to me. It could be a power problem to the ECM too. When you turn your key on, does the check engine light come on for a few seconds? If not, check the ECM fuses.
     
  7. turnanburn

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    That valve stem on the fuel cap sure brings back some memories of chasing leaks in a fuel system. We used to push air back through the return line that way to find a sucking problem
     
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  8. Deezl Smoke

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    Sitting like that, your fuel filter is likely plugged. Or filter(s) as I believe there should be 2 depending on truck model. So no fuel is getting to engine. I know, it ran fine last time. But that is how it works sometimes. Runs, shut it off, filter is plugged enough to not let it start again after cooling and sitting for another month or more.

    The run up was ether caused. That is the test book perfect description of too much starting fluid. Any damage done, if any, is permanent and cant be undone without $$$$. Lets hope none has been done.

    Charge the batteries, change the fuel filters, plug in a block heater if it has one, and hook up your pickup with jumper cables next time before you try to start it again. Remove the battery cables and have a rat tail file, emery cloth, and a wire brush handy. Get all cable connections clean and shiny. That means the ground too, at all connection sites. Frame, batteries and starter.

    If you heat up your starter and run low voltage to it, you risk of sticking the starter on. At that point if you are not prepared for it, you can have a truck fire on your hands.

    IMO.
     
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  9. bowtieboy77

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    I would side with the fuel system sucking air somewhere. I had a sterling this winter die while idling in yard. Would not start. After checking all electrical I decided to check fuel prime. A little spray of brake cleaner (basically either) she started up and ran. If I let it idle it would try and stall unless I kept on the throttle. The problem was a rotted aluminum filter housing sucking air around the fitting threads. Also had a 96 frieght with detroit 60 it sucked air around threads of the fuel tank splitter tee. Look at all your fuel connections if you see any that look damp (does not need to be wet or dripping fuel to suck air) tighten them up and re prime the system.
     
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  10. RAGIN CAJUN

    RAGIN CAJUN Light Load Member

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    No lights come on whatsoever,none I'll b beading that way in a few hours to get my battery's n charge e. Back up ...I have two battery chargers ...hopefully theyll b charged before the day out if not then definitely tomorrow...but that's strange when I was spraying the fluid I had my Cuzn trurn the truck over that's when I heard DA metal on metal when I stopped spraying it ...the noise apparently went away but truck didn't start.I guess there's a first time for everything...THATS THE REASON WHY WE STRESS TO THE NEW GUYS-WHO WANNA JUST JUMP UP AND BHY A TRUCM MAKE SURE U HAVE 5-10,000 PUT UP AND THATS THE REASON Y WE TAKE OUT THAT .15-.20 CPM OUT FOR MAINTENANCE LUCKILY IM JUST N A LITTLE BETTER POSITION THEN A FEW AND I CAN AFFORD A MECHANIC AND AFFORD A NEW MOTOR IF TJAT IS THE PROBLEM WHICH I DOUBT,.BECAUSE IF IT WAS THE BLOCK,BECAUSE ONCE U LOCK UP DA BLOCK IT WONT EVEN SPIN OVER,MINE IS STILL SPINNING OVER JUST NOT STARTEN.N I BELIEVE MY MECHANIC BAS DAT DIAGNOSTIC TOOL...IF NOT HES BEEN WORKING ON TRUCKS AND OWNED TRUCKS FOR OVER 40,YEARS...THANK GOD FOR EXPERIENCE AND OLD AGE IN THIS CASE....LMBO!
     
  11. RAGIN CAJUN

    RAGIN CAJUN Light Load Member

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    Exactly Deezl Smoke IMA change the filters ,charge up batteries, and shoot it up.I forgot to mention it has been Doing it of RAINING DOWN HERE LATELY,ALOT .,Maybe it could be a moisture problem also.
     
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