1969 Autocar (I was told at least)

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Mbarasing, Jul 27, 2019.

  1. BoxCarKidd

    BoxCarKidd Road Train Member

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    Air assist was an add on and could be on any truck with a manual box. The three 1984 4300 IHC's I converted to hydraulic power steering had those switches. If your Mack was older it may have been different.
     
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  3. BoxCarKidd

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    Later models without the flat dash probably had the breakers in the kick panel on the left side of the clutch pedal.
     
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    I never cared for their clutch linkage setup. Say what you will about the Peterbilt clutch through the floor, but on mine, it was the nicest clutch I ever used, when I used it, that is. Those White products were great trucks. I made money with my Western Star, because worked every day.
     
  5. Mbarasing

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    There is 1 steering box and two steering cylinders, if that's what they're called. One on each side. Hydraulic steering assist I guess.

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    Spring bushings is a possibility...

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    As far as I can tell there is no fan clutch or coolant thermostat. The thermostat operates air shutters on the grill and the fan spins continuously.

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    Haven't pulled the dash yet but no sign of fuses anywhere. No kickpanels...there is an air vent instead. Junction box at floor by drivers seat.

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    The fronts are kumo tubeless floats...

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    Rears are tubed radials... no widow makers though.

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  10. Mbarasing

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    Can anyone tell me how this steering system works? The drag link between pitman and steering cylinder is my number one suspect. Where it connects to the steering cylinder seems to have play in it, unless that is part of the design to activate the hydraulics.

    With the truck off, I can turn the wheel and the pitman arm moves without noticable play. But the drag arm connection to steering cylinder moves back and forth a bit and ofcourse the steering cylinder doesn't move. I have not tried this test with truck running yet. Are the hydraulics activated by this movement? Is it a valve of some sort?

    Kingpins have been turned, bushings replaced and bearings are good. Spring bushings maybe the problem too.
     
  11. BoxCarKidd

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    I have never seen a system like that on a truck. Once worked at a place with two cranes made in the 60's. One was a P and H, the other a Manitowoc. One or both of them had a similar system. Never had drive ability problems as they never left the sight.
    Yes that is a hydraulic assist steering system and the cylinder with multiple hoses is the control valve.
    I believe it would have some of the same struggles as the air assisted system. If there is anything that would cause the front end to wander or or dart you can be in for a constant struggle.
    Of the three 8400.s mentioned one driver was fine with it and left the air switch turned on all the time. He also did not have to back into tight spots. He explained that if you know how the system works and do not make abrupt changes with the steering wheel it drives fine. However if you jerk the wheel the control cylinder sends air to the steering cylinder. That causes over steering and you jerk to the other way. It can be the beginning of the tail is wagging the dog situation. Try to keep the steering wheel straight in the direction you want to go and make slow corrections.
    Check alignment plus everything for wear front and rear.
    After that you may need to rebuild the control and slave cylinders. Hydraulic packing does not last for ever.
     
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