1977 White Western Star 4800-1 front rear spring hanger replacements

Discussion in 'Western Star Forum' started by 77WhiteWS, May 20, 2021.

  1. 77WhiteWS

    77WhiteWS Bobtail Member

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    New to this forum and looking if anyone has gone through a replacement or upgrade to the front rear spring hangers as the originals aluminum are both cracked.
    I have found two from a 2002 which are steel and clearly stronger but holes are different as well as the spring pin distance will be 1” lower from the bottom of the frame. Easy enough to have new bronze bushings made to accept the original 11/8 spring pins but just check in case someone has already done it.
    Thks
     
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  3. SmallPackage

    SmallPackage Road Train Member

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    All the old W-WS’s I’ve been around had the aluminum rear hangers replaced with cast iron ones from the White 4000’s.
    The front ones were aluminum too. Since they were also the bumper brackets and tilt hood hinge mounts all in one they always were cracked quickly. They were cast iron on most of the Whites but they too also used some aluminum ones here and there. All the hangers are gonna be a salvage or nos part only. Pins and bushings should still be availiable from a good spring shop.

    We’ve built some of our own over the years out of pieces of frame plate and thick wall round tubing.
     
  4. 77WhiteWS

    77WhiteWS Bobtail Member

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    Thanks I think we are on the right path with the newer Western Star part.
    Luckily the fronts were fine perhaps because this doesn’t have the tilt front end just tilting fenders and they are supported off the frame
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    Cheers and thanks for the input.
     
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  5. 77WhiteWS

    77WhiteWS Bobtail Member

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    Pretty much finished with the replacement front (rear) spring hangers
    Had to have the bushings made up so we could still use the same shackles and pins so we didn’t have to change and make the spring bushings.
    And I guess we lucked out on the Fronts as they were already made of steel.
    A few more things to do and then the old girl is roadworthy again!
     
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  6. AModelCat

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    That an old Baird truck?
     
  7. 77WhiteWS

    77WhiteWS Bobtail Member

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    Not sure who Baird is but we are in Kelowna BC Canada were it was actually built as a White Western Star 4800-1. So far our best guess is that it was a BC highways truck with perhaps a snow plow as it was originally all Yellow and the box isn’t all beat up so might have just carried sand!
     
  8. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Gotcha. Baird have a yard near Salmon Arm. Some of their old trucks were painted blue like that if I remember it right.

    I wish they'd have kept the Kelowna plant open. Best trucks ever built. My old man and some of his coworkers got a tour of the factory back in the early 90s.
     
  9. 77WhiteWS

    77WhiteWS Bobtail Member

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    Do I take it you are in Canada?
    Yes great trucks and a loss for Kelowna when it left.
    Have a few friends that used to work there.
    Truck was up around 100 mile house in 2015 and seems to have been used in Bc Forestry support.
    Someone had already done a engine and trans swap out from the original 6V 53N and the MT 650 with a Cummins and a Fuller 8LL.
    No idea of who or where but all in all I’d say a fair enough swap and still running strong.
     
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    Grew up around the Shuswap and the Okanagan.
     
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  11. SmallPackage

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    Good to hear that the scarce parts are still serviceable.
    It’s nice that there is still a far amount of the W/WS’s still around. They were very popular down here in Texas before Pete opened the Denton plant. Houston was littered with them at one time. sadly tons of Aluminum cabbed and framed ones got scrapped and the steel cabbed ones have slowly rotted away. Having one down here with the Built in Kelowna Plant Tag on the seat mount next to the wiring box was truely cool back in the day.
     
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