1986 Kenworth 3406b starter wiring

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  1. OldRed98

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    Hello, I have an 86 Kenworth with a 3406b.

    It recently started to have a hard time starting. The starter turns slow. Then today it wouldn’t turn over at all. I checked the batteries with my charger and says all 4 have 12+ volts. I figured it must be the starter.

    I put in a new starter and no luck. Still won’t turn over.

    I traced the wiring and can’t figure out how the remote wire works on this truck.

    I can hear a clicking in my solenoids in the battery box.

    I’ve also had an issue with irregular voltage. Sometimes it spike 14+. I’m noticing when I go to start my voltage drops to 10. Let it sit for a minute and it bounces back up.

    any ideas are greatly appreciated. I think I have a 12 volt system. At least the starter said 12v on it.
     
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  3. OldRed98

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    Here are pictures of my solenoids in my battery box
     

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  5. Big Road Skateboard

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    Battery voltage doesn't necessarily equal a good battery. Load test batteries, if good verify (don't just look, then say, "looks good") that all cables, frame ground, cab grounds, are clean and tight.
     
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  6. OldRed98

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    thank you. I’ve been thinking it could be bad batteries. I might pull them in then go load test them tonight. With that voltage drop makes me think they’re bad.
     
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    Those cable ends look pretty gross.

    I'm going to assume negative ground with the following.

    Get a multimeter, go positive battery post to the positive cable at the starter solenoid, read the voltage while cranking. Then go to the other side of the solenoid and repeat. Should see next to zero volts.

    Repeat on the negative side. Starter ground strap (if it has one). If not, starter frame to battery negative post. Again, should be close to zero volts when cranking.

    If you're seeing anything over quarter of a volt on either positive or negative side, you've got a bad connection or cable somewhere between the two meter leads.
     
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  8. Oxbow

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    I think everything has been covered, I would just reiterate how important good connections are, and it costs nothing but your time and effort.
     
  9. Deere hunter

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    I would change out that solenoid. It's the same solenoid that a Ford Mustang uses. They're usually the first thing to go!
     
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  10. OldRed98

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    Thanks for your help everyone. I had my batteries bench tested. The voltage was acting strange with a load. Dropping to 9v. So I bought new batteries.

    came home and threw them on in the dark and still only getting a click on the solenoid in the battery box but the starter won’t fire.

    I can’t seem to figure out the remote wire for the starter. I have two positives that go to the batteries and then there was a loose small wire but I traced it back and it’s broken off. But can’t seem to figure out where that skinny wire would have connected to. There is no wire hanging where it broke off.
     
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  11. OldRed98

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    This is the wiring on the starter. Only had wires going to the positive post and wires on the negative post. I just don’t understand how the starter would get a signal to fire. But I’m almost sure this is how it was wired before the starter replacement.
     

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