1999 peterbilt 379 ext hood bounce wobble

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  1. Cwarren379

    Cwarren379 Bobtail Member

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    I have recently put a new front rear end in the truck bought 2 brand new steer tires had the truck aligned. I also just put a new transmission in the truck. I have no weird tire wear on the drives not steers now. I still have a terrible bounce. Also put new motor mounts in as well. Could I possibly have. Warped drive shaft?
     
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  3. Cwarren379

    Cwarren379 Bobtail Member

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    Also I have checked my leveling valve and put it in every position possible. I also notice the colder it is outside the rougher the bounce is. I'm convinced it's a tire but when I jack the truck up and run it at different speeds there is no bounce or wobble from any of the tires all tires are wearing the same.
     
  4. 04 LowMax

    04 LowMax Medium Load Member

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    I can relate to your frustration. I have fought with vibration, it's not fun. But here is one thing, if it is mostly through the floor and seat, not the steering , I think that rules out the steering and front end. If it was from there, you'd be feeling it more in the steering wheel than anywhere else. I had a bad vibe, was pretty sure it was somewhere in the driveline, but after all u joints replaced, it finally got better with a new steady bearing. If it is speed related, smooth at some speeds, and bad at others, I'd look at the whole drive shaft, including the stub shaft and steady bearing. Maybe even getting a driveline shop to check it out and do a balance would be worth considering. It can be really tough sometimes diagnosing things on these older trucks, I know. Good luck, let us know if you find the culprit.
     
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  5. Cwarren379

    Cwarren379 Bobtail Member

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    Thank ya!! I do feel it in the drivers set as well as the floor. I agree with you about it not being the front end. When you say steady bearing what exactly do you mean is that the same thing as the carrier bearing?
    If it's the same thing I have replaced the carrier bearing.
     
  6. 04 LowMax

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    Yes carrier bearing/steady bearing, same thing. You haven't said if you've checked the entire drive shaft though, including the stub shaft? From what you have posted here about it changing, with different torque on the driveline, I'd be suspect of a u joint, or spline joint, driveshaft out of phase or balance.
    If this all checks out, what about wheel bearings, as marmon man said? How many miles on the truck? Wheel bearings can last a very long time, but not forever. Or what about that back diff? If I am right you haven't touched that yet right? Just trying to help you brainstorm a bit here.
     
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  7. Cwarren379

    Cwarren379 Bobtail Member

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    When you say stub shaft is that the short shaft between the 2 rear ends? If so other than just looking at it I haven't taken it out and examined it any further. Yes it does change at different speeds. The u joints are not new but there is no slack and I have greased them. I didn't see anything wrong with them. Spline joints appear fine but a tiny bit of slack just very min. Slack. Drive shafts are in line I haven't had it balanced.
    Wheel bearings are good they have been replaced a few weeks ago.
    miles 1,847,000
    back diff- I've replaced the bearings in the input shaft (front of back dif)
    please do brainstorm I've been dealing with this for a while now. Any ideas are greatly appreciated.
     
  8. special k

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    does it do it bobtail? what suspension do you have on it? If its a tire and it does it bobtail you may be able to see it visually from another vehicle. Get someone in a car to follow you and check from all angles.
     
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  9. Cwarren379

    Cwarren379 Bobtail Member

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    It does do it bob tailing we've jacked it up put it on jacks a buddy of mine has rode beside me behind me we can't see a tire bouncing. But the warmer the tires get the less it does it but then sometimes it does it with speed as well. We've had warmer weather the past week and it was less intense now it's cooler again and it's bouncing hard. I'm debating a tire or back diff or warped drive shaft
     
  10. Cwarren379

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    Thinking back it began about 2 years ago I thought it was the trailer I was pulling at the time because it was junk and needed a lot of work but now I'm pulling a brand new Fontaine and I still have the problem at that time I put the bearings in the front of the back diff that is the only thing that's been done to the back diff I just recently put a whole new front rear end/ power divider in.. New transmission and all the other stuff I've done to it. I don't know how the drive shaft would be warped the trucks never had any damage. I did have some injectors in my truck that I had to take out because it kept gauding pistons. May have been to much torque and twisted or warped that drive shaft.
     
  11. special k

    special k Light Load Member

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    Petes of that era with air-trac seem to be prone to bouncing issues. Most of the time its right from new though. Have you put the truck on a dead level floor and measured the frame rails carefully from front to back to see if there's any twist in it? Is there any way you could borrow a set of drive wheel/tires to run for a test drive.I know it would be a PITA but after all the other work you've done you might not have much of a choice.
     
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