Can someone explain to me how a driver on e-logs can drive for 2 weeks straight without a 34? Hubby has done this route.
Left 9/16 Ingalls, IN and picked up in Indianapolis.
Delivered 9/17 just North of Atlanta. He had to go through a safety meeting and took his 10 off at the terminal in McDonnelly, GA.
9/18 picked up in McDonnelly, Ga and had to go up near Portland Oregon.
9/19-9/22 drove daily and used up 11 hours a day. He would have had no hours left to deliver on 9/23, but the logs people went in and shaved time off, so he could have 3 hours to get where he needed to be and deliver on 9/23. While he was waiting to get unloaded he ran out of hours and had to take Personal Commute time to get to a truckstop. Logs went in and shaved more time off and gave him 4 hours to go and pick up 2 stops in Othello, WA. He got picked up on 9/24, and took his 10, and he gained 4 hours back again, so he ran to Montana on 9/25. The next morning 9/26 he gained back 11 hours, so he drove to Minnesota and took his 10. 9/27 he gained back another 11 hours, so he drove to Stoneyridge, OH and took his break. 9/28 he drove to Allentown, PA and delivered and is currently taking a 10 hour break. Now they want him to go to Dover, DE pickup and go to Green Bay, WI, and then they will try to get him a load home.
So anytime I have ever dealt with logs...it has always been no more then 70 in a 8 day period...so how in the world can he be gaining time back with no break? Can some one shed some light on this, because he is going to run out of time and be forced to take a 34 somewhere this week.The experience with this new company has not been a pleasant one so far....he was supposed to be out for 2 weeks with 2 days at home...now its more like 3 weeks out and ??? home.
Any explanations would be greatly appreciated.![]()
2 weeks running straight....hos?????
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by mamamullins, Oct 1, 2012.
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maybe he showed more time on duty not driving than he needed to like an hour to fuel or vsi;s etc but very possible to roll your hours and run non stop as long as you average 8.75 hrs a day
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Sounds like you've identified the answer ... if "safety" "shaves off" 1,2, 3, or 4 hours here and there, anything is possible. But regardless, 34 hour restarts are NOT MANDATORY or required or necessary IF the daily on duty hours are reduced below the maximum allowed ... consistently and/or regularly.
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You can run 8.75 hours a day from now on because the first day falls off. Its makes day # 2 change to day #1 of the next 8 day period. It is complicated, but legal.
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What company does he work for? Shaving off 4hrs that sounds illegal to me. Unless he is using on duty not driving time for unloads or something like that. I would get away from this company. Seems like great miles, but if he gets in an accident. Even though the company shaved off those hours. He will still get in trouble.
Now if you aren't running hard it is possible to not ever have to take a 34 restart. Once your 8days come around you will be losing the hours that you worked from the previous week. I myself only have 7hrs and 32 min left on my 70. but i'll gain 4hrs at midnight. Then the next day I have 7hrs coming off and the next almost 12. I hate running on recap hours because you have to wait till midnight to run again. But sounds like the safety department your husband works for. Is logging like I use to log. Hope he doesn't get caught. -
I do it all the time. I took a 34 in Front Royal, VA, picked up in Strasburg, VA, 7 stops: Las Vegas, NV; Oxnard, CA; Walnut, CA; Poway, CA; Sylmar, CA and two stops in Los Angeles. I then picked up in Tulare, CA and took that to Appleton, WI, then picked up in Neenah, WI and dropped in Eagan, MN. That's 5640 loaded miles. You keep on getting hours off the back 8 days so you can continue running.
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I recently had a friend of mine who had been working for Swift and USXpress tell me how he thought it was MANDATORY to take a 34hr restart every week.
He was running elogs and apparently, when his hours were close, they automatically had him take a 34, he assumed it was part of driving
now he is on a different company, running paper logs and is completely lost
yet another friend is on elogs and drives coast to coast and max's out at 4000mi per week (all drop and hooks)mamamullins Thanks this. -
They're more than likely editing unnecessary on duty time.
I always show 15 mins at customers for loading/ unloading then go into sleeper. Staying on duty wastes 70 he clock. Say your held up somewhere for 8 or 10 hours. You could be logging a break thus resetting your hours but instead you stay on duty the whole time then take a break. Completely unnecessarymamamullins Thanks this. -
There should be a day in there where he only can run a few hours in the day and or having to take a whole day off and it just seems magically his safety department is cutting hours off some how when he really needs them. Seems shady and at best that the DOT put the company on Elog because of their shady logging practices in the first place.
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Thanks everyone. The company he used to work for was on e-logs too. When they got to 70 hours they had to shut down and take a 34. They always told him that they were not able to go in and change anything in the e-logs, so if he drove 15 minutes over to find a spot to park it was a violation. Maybe I am wrong, but I had drivers who got pulled over by DOT for inspections, and if they found that they did not take a legal 34 they would shut them down for 24 hours, before they could roll.
Me personally I just don't think it is safe to run that much and that many days in a row without having a break. Now when he is at a shippers and it is a live unload, and if he is tired he will put himself in the sleeper berth other wise it is on duty not driving. I don't know all the areas that they shaved off, but it's just odd how one company tells you that they can't edit the e-logs, and another company can. Shouldn't the rules be the same straight across the board?
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