2008 c15 engine brake

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  1. mrtceo

    mrtceo Bobtail Member

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    I have a 2008 c15, had the overhead done about two months ago. It originally went to the shop because of a ticking noise, which turned out to be a broken rocker stud and 4 loose ones. Replaced all nine.

    Engine brake worked fine before, and for about three weeks after. Before the motor warms up, ( 5 or 10 miles), the engine brake works fine, then it gets extremely weak. Myself and several mechanics have run it with the valve cover off and energized the solenoids individually, and all three at once. They all work. They also function properly when you change the range selector switch. I changed the oil pressure relief solenoid, the pressure sensor, and the selector switch on the dash.

    Just seems like once it warms up it doesn't hold oil pressure. Everybody says that the brake assembly is un-serviceable. Seems like there's got to be an O ring folded over somewhere or something, that can't hold the pressure once the oil is heated up.

    Another guy says there are oil supply tubes that would have been removed with everything else when the studs were changed, and that these have O rings on them.

    Anybody know whats up with this?
     
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  3. Superhauler

    Superhauler TEACHER OF MEN

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    i dont know about the 08 and newer cats but if you had broken roker studs it could of wore the base of the accuators where they sit on the rocker shafts and it isnt sealing good enough to keep the oil from seeping out from between. the oil supply for the jake comes from the rocker shaft supply not from the accuator oil supply. i would mic the shafts and the jake/accuator housing for wear. the o-rings he is talking about are under those oil bridges that supply oil to the accuators.and on the little shaft that the bridges slide down on.
     
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  4. mrtceo

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    That's the first info I've gotten that makes any sense. I guess the one to start with would be the back one, which had the broken stud. Sometimes it will start working fine for a half mile or so and then act up again. I don't have a lot of internal engine experience, but would the shaft be a changeable part? I know you change one set of jakes. Or is the shaft tied into the jake assembly somehow?
     
  5. truckmechanic

    truckmechanic Medium Load Member

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    I would check the selinoids check the o rings that seal them and ohm them out sounds electrical since it comes and goes make sure the selinoids are tight since they ground through the Jake housing
     
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  6. manasteel

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    check the jake/actuator housing for a crack removing the actuator solinoids may help you find the crack
     
  7. Superhauler

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    the rocker shaft is a separate pc. i would check the o-rings first before pulling the shaft out. but if you pull the rocker shaft also check the base of the jake/accuator assembly where it sits on the studs to see of it wore uneven when the studs were broke.
     
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    thats another thing to check also look for cracks in the housing!
     
  9. mrtceo

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    Probably is cracked. I been told that's the next thing that happens after the stud breaks if you keep running it. Great. Another $1200.
     
  10. Mr. Haney

    Mr. Haney Road Train Member

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    I'll be honest in saying I'm not sure about this ebgine, but the earlier engines also used specificly located hold down bolts for the jake housings and rocker shafts. If this engine is similar in its design regarding this and supplying oil to the jakes through a passage along side the bolt, the larger diameter updated bolts maybe restricting oil supply to the jake housing. In the earlier engines you need to have one bolt that has a machined down shoulder to allow oil to feed the jakes when you upgrade the bolts to the heavier design and this bolt also is specific to where it is located or the jakes won't work properly afterwards
     
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  11. mrtceo

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    Funny you mention those bolts. I'm trying a new mechanic, he was saying about those bolts and the oil supply hole last night. He's suppose to be working on it today. He'll be my hero if he fixes it. He's the third mechanic I've been to for this. I'm afraid to go to a dealer with it, they don't know anything anyhow. This guy only does motor work and is the exclusive motor guy for a few small fleets in my area. I'll post the outcome.
     
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