2012 Freightliner cascadia with Cummins engine blown turbo

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Jona, Sep 17, 2018.

  1. Jona

    Jona Bobtail Member

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    I was driving from San Antonio TX to California when my turbo gave out in van horn TX. I had to get towed to El Paso bc they didn’t have that specific turbo in van horn. Now that I’m at a shop, they’re trying to charge me 15,000 + in just parts. They’re telling me that I have to change three DPF filters bc oil got in to them, plus turbo. I just want to get back on the road and get to my local mechanic. Do I have to change the DPF system or can I just clean them and be ok. Or can I just fix the turbo head back to my local mechanic and clean the DPF there? Any advise would help. Please and thank you.
     
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  3. I glide 47

    I glide 47 Road Train Member

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    Check with your local mech by phone I'm not sure
     
  4. Goodysnap

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    The DPF will not last if saturated with oil or coolant and I would highly advise replacement with new or reman. The DOC should be OK to reuse.
     
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  5. Misesian

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    Ask to see it. If oil got in it, you’ll need a new one. Is the turbo really gone or does it need a new actuator? It is rare for the turbo to “blow” but more common for the actuator to fail.
    I think they’re full of it. I’ve owned a nightmare Cummins myself in the past and I’ll never own a Cummins again.
    When the actuator failed on mine the turbo was blowing oil and did no damage. Just needed an actuator.
    A new turbo alone is 5800.00 or so, just the actuator is around 1500-1800. A new DPF is 1200-1800. Even if you needed all of it, their math isn’t adding up. As a comparison, a new Freightliner OneBox, the entire emissions box, will cost you 15k. I’d get it out of there and into a real Cummins shop.
    When you do finally get this done I’d get the truck to Pittsburgh Power for their new EGR system clean using a machine called Diesel Force. It works and I know from experience that the EGR system on the ISX is terrible. The ISX makes a lot of soot. I owned a 2012 and a 2013 truck with ISX and I’ll never do that again.
     
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  6. Jona

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    I’ll ask to see it. They said it blew. When I stopped at van horn, to get food. The truck was doing just fine, no noises, the gages were fine, good power climbing up hills, check engine lights, or any kind of warning light on. Ate my food there, turned the truck back on got on the freeway and started hearing a really bad sound on the right side of the engine. The way I could describe it, it was like a metal screeching sound coming from inside the turbo. Pulled over turned the truck off, checked my oil and coolant everything was fine. Turned it on again moved it 15 feet. There was no more power, I could only go up to 25mph the most. Turned it back off, there was no more oil when I checked the dip stick again. Called road service after that. The place that’s giving me this price is Cummins in El Paso TX. I just bought this truck last year, I’m an owner operator so everything is hitting me really hard right now. Talked to my mechanic back home. He’s telling me to just focus on the problem for now. Which is the turbo, just to get back on the road and when I get back home we’ll clean the DPF filters and inspect it.
     
  7. Justrucking2

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    Did you physically inspect the turbo? Take the intake and exhaust side apart and look in there? Look inside the CAC on the turbo side? If there is oil/coolant like the Stealership says, odds are the cans are shot. And then the SCR system, was that inspected for the volcano? Many times the SCR system will get leaks or crack and will plug the exhaust system taking out the turbo and cooking the motor.

    Do you have a pyromoter and a turbo boost gauge on the truck? A pyrometer is essential, these emissions will quickly cook a motor if not maintained. The boost gauge is obvious.

    I can help with your turbo, give these guys a call... YTS Turbochargers LLC, 787-675-1768 They will overnight one to you, guessing around $2,000. Mine was $1600 with exchange.

    If you can, give Mr Haggai (Jerry) a call. Haggai Automotive and Diesel Repair, Griffin GA. He is the top Cummins man in the country. (678) 688-8107

    Katie will answer the phone, or Jules, tell them a friend of Rawze told you to call, Waterloo, and that you would like to speak to Jerry about this very serious problem. You really need some sound advice on this issue.
     
  8. mhyn

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    you need new turbo, new dpf, new inlet nox sensor and set of dpf clamp. Around $8-8.5k for parts. just wondering what is the mileage of truck ?
     
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  9. Misesian

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    Yours may have failed then. I hate it when a shop just says something is blown or it blew up; there is no such thing. The only time “it blew up” is acceptable is if the crankshaft came flying out the bottom and literally blew out the bottom end.Tell me what failed exactly so I know what I’m dealing with. I think they do it because they assume we’re not educated enough to understand them. One of my Cummins trucks wasn’t too bad but the second one had me on the phone with these type of people a lot.
     
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  10. mhyn

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    I guess blown turbo means destroyed compressor side propeller and the shaft is resting in front of DOC.
     
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