2014 KW T660 No headlights and left turn

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  1. Ironmyke

    Ironmyke Light Load Member

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    Good Day,

    was wondering if you can point me in the direction of-acquiring the lighting schematics for a 2014 KW T660. If someone has it can you please send it to me ? The truck lost its low beams, high beams , parking lights inside both headlamps and the left turn signal on the front of the truck. I’ve checked all the CECU and Node fuses both by the steering wheel and inside the kick panel with no luck. Without the wiring diagram I’m totally lost. I’ve pull the lighting wiring from the front bumper out but it seems ok. Here’s the IVin# 1XKAD49XXEJ385248..
    Your help is greatly appreciated

    Thanks
     
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  3. dustinbrock

    dustinbrock Road Train Member

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    Have you pulled apart the DT connector on the frame and checked with a probe light?
     
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  4. ducnut

    ducnut Road Train Member

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    I had a similar issue, but, at the rear of a newer T680. I had nothing at the rear of the truck, except 1 turn signal. I went through all the lighting circuit fuses, in both fuse boxes. After finding nothing blown, I started going through all the other fuses. I found a blown fuse on a circuit that had nothing to do with lights. I replaced the fuse and all the lights came back. CAN bus does some bizarre stuff.
     
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  5. Ironmyke

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    Thanks guys. It is time consuming and so far the fuses in the CLC are all good . The chassis node checks out good so now I’m trying to track down a potential broken wire in the front chassis harness.
     
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    Go back to your fuse boxes and start pulling the fuses, one by one, and use a 12V test light to test each side of the fuse socket. In CAN bus, you need to see voltage on both sides. You’ll want to take notes as to which sockets don’t have power on both sides, then, try and figure out commonality. I’ll just about bet you, there are no wiring problems. You’re thinking old school. Newer stuff doesn’t work that way, especially when what you’re experiencing doesn’t make logical sense like how we used to think.
     
  7. Ironmyke

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    Thanks you but I took it to the dealership and they diagnosed it as a short in the front chassis harness. They want to replace it at the tune of over $16,000 bucks. I will not allow them to do this as I think they just want to throw parts at it at my expense. Heck , I can do that myself without getting raped at the dealership.
     
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  8. JB7

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    16k outrageous. Another post on here where the dealer wanted to replace a harness or 2 for something like 10k.Took it to a place that specializes in electrical and repaired it for less than 1k.
    Take a look at the turn signal switch. Just about everything runs through the chassis node, all the lights, wipers. I see in post #4 that you checked that. By doing what?
    Check and clean any grounds from the headlight wiring going to the frame.
     
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  9. ducnut

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    I’d sure want to see how they diagnosed it, especially for that kind of money. From what I know of dealerships, replacing an entire harness has become the standard MO, instead of actually finding the fault.
     
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  10. Ironmyke

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    It’s funny that you mentioned the ground wire . I do believe it’s just that.
    I found a shop that specialises in semi truck wiring so I’ll be taking it there before I buy any harnesses. I am renting a truck so I really don’t have time to mess around with it . I know one thing for sure is that I will not be paying 16K for those wire harnesses. Thanks for your input. I’ll keep it updated as to what the electrician finds.
     
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