2019 Freightliner weight isses

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by CharlesS, Feb 25, 2019.

  1. CharlesS

    CharlesS Light Load Member

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    Just started with a new company running in the Southwest and getting home throughout the week and that's great. My issue and headache is the truck. It's a 2019 Felreightliner Cascadia auto with a Detroit engine. Truck runs great but darn near every load puts me overweight on my steer tires. Moving the 5th wheel and tandems sometimes will help or make it worse. Usually have to move things around and reweigh about 3 or 4 times before it's good to go which eats up a lot of time. Don't know if it matters but pulling a refer trailer with a Carrier unit. Right now in CA with a load truck and load weighing only 40K but still over 500lbs heavy on the steer tires. When I worked for Werner I'd pull loads twice as heavy and never had to touch the 5th wheel, just move the tandems.
     
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  3. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    12,500 - 12,700 is typical on the Cascadia but it’s not a problem. If you’re running heavier than that, then maybe there’s a discussion to be had.

    Get it to ~12,600 full of fuel and 34,000 on drives then forget about it. Most of the fuel burn weight will come off of the steer axle if it’s a typical fleet sleeper Cascadia.
     
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  4. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    What is the weight rating on your tires? Or your steer axle. 12,500 may be ok.
     
  5. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    90% of the heavy, full fuel Cascadia condos out here today are probably running at or above 12,500 on the steer and nobody is getting hassled about it.
     
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  6. snowwy

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    I"m guess 13,000 is the standard spec these days.

    My last 2 were.

    I don't know why everyone gets in a panic because they're over 12,000
     
  7. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    I could not care if it was over 12K ever. I don't know of any incident that mattered.

    I do think that modern tractors have gotten obese in a way but eh... fill em and run it.
     
  8. Liquidforce

    Liquidforce Light Load Member

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    Most cascadias ive seen are specced with a 13,200 front axle. have a look at your vin sticker in the door
     
  9. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    Every truck should have a sweet spot on the 5th wheel so you won’t have to move it anymore for 95% of the loads. If you have moved the 5th wheel all the way back, and your steers are still overweight, they loaded you too heavy in the front, especially since you have a reefer trailer. That is one of the reasons why on loads over 40k they typically put a single pallet on the first row, or two singles on the first two rows.

    There are only a few states with low steer axle weight limits, according to the 2019 Rand McNally road atlas:
    • Indiana (12,000)
    • Louisiana (12,000)
    • Mississippi (12,000)
    • North Dakota (550 lb./inch of tire width)
    Using my steer tires of 275 mm (10.8268 in) width, I can only be 11,909 in my steers in ND.​
    • Some states mention tire manufacturer rating
    My steer tires have a tire manufacturer rating of 12,350 total, which can be found on the sidewall of the tire.​

    My steer axle is rated to 12,000. This can be found on the side of the driver door. It’s interesting to note that the road atlas does not mention steer axle rating as a weight limit, but that’s not to say they won’t cite you for exceeding your equipment axle rating.

    One last note, you will find on the road atlas that several states allow over 80,000 gross. However, you probably need a permit for that and a truck/trailer that can handle the weight.
     

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  10. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    MT allows 81k. But must be legal on axles. So a tandem trailer would have to have 13 on the steers Utah allows 1%.
     
  11. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    MT shows 80k in the road atlas. Anything over 80k probably requires a permit. Most fleets are also probably only registered to haul 80k. You can find this on your truck’s registration and on the side of your truck near your USDOT#. If you have an APU, most states allow 400 or 550 pounds over 80k.

    I forgot to mention that the road atlas doesn’t say 1% overgross for UT. It says 80k and steer axle based on the tire manufacturer rating.
     
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    Reason for edit: Clarification on last paragraph
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