2023 Freightliner Issue - PLEASE HELP

Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by Beupsoon96, Jun 16, 2023.

  1. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Has anyone actually bothered to verify the voltage at the batteries, starter, alternator etc? The voltmeter on the dash is pretty much useless for anything other than telling you there is an issue. It has little to no value as a diagnostic tool.
     
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  3. Beupsoon96

    Beupsoon96 Bobtail Member

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    So, just a quick update.....


    As I'd said before, I had one battery replaced and woke up with that BRAND NEW battery boiling this morning. After talking with the mechanic, I decided to have all 4 batteries replaced. They were 750 CCA and now 950 CCA.

    Problem is still here.... I don't want to jinx myself, but with all 4 new batteries, the voltage fluctuates the same and drops to 9 when engine is off. I kinda think I'll wake to another boiling battery. I now have an occasional beep coming from my dash too, a single and quiet beep. Seems to happen every 2 minutes.

    The mechanic verified the alternator voltage after these new batteries, he followed the power and ground cables from the battery box area, and he even called an out of state freightliner to ask for advice. No chafed or exposed wires, alt voltage great, and freightliner had no clue at all on what the issue would be.

    He said if problems continue, he will run a continuity test tomorrow? He has some kind of claw type tool that you run up and down a wire to find issues.

    Now I'm wondering what you guys think. Where does the dash read voltage from? Could that be faulty? Could both the old battery and brand new one that boiled over night have been a coincidence? I desperately need help.....

    I was at Velocity out of Lexington Ky a week ago for electrical problems. MSF issues were to blame. I took it there twice and they worked on the MSF both times. First time there were missing switches I believe he said, and second time it was unplugged. Surely that wouldn't be my issue right? Especially since a great shop with nothing but great reviews looked at it not once, but twice. He also found a short in the bunk wiring for the light but fixed that too, and I haven't had the issues I'd taken it in for since. But these new voltage problems started after 4200 miles? I need some advice here.
     
  4. JB7

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    "The mechanic verified the alternator voltage.." Did they check the alternator amperage and ripple? If not, then they don't know what they are doing. The alternator may not be your problem but it needs to be ruled out. If the voltage is dropping to 9v after shut off I would also check for a draw. And hook up a scan tool or laptop to see what the ecm is reading, not just relying on the gauge, and what the modules are doing. Do you have an APU? Batteries boil from being overfilled and/or overcharged. I don't see how the battery is boiling overnight if the truck is not running. You would probably be better off going to an electrical specialty shop. I doubt you are going to get it fixed where it is at now.
     
  5. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    Surely this is under warranty? Why not bring it to freight shaker and have them fix the issue? Sounds like it is getting grounded out somewhere to me.
     
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  6. Beupsoon96

    Beupsoon96 Bobtail Member

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    Think that's my only option..... Been parked for 4 days. Stopped for a 34 and #### hit the fan. Really not looking forward to the waiting time though..... Only place near me is north of Denver, 130 miles away.....
     
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    Siinman Road Train Member

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    I would be getting it in and telling them I have a load to get out. Make it look like it needs fixed right away. If it is a little issue they will most likely help you out and get it looked at.
     
  8. uncleal13

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    Look in the owners manual. In a fuse block on the firewall near the steering column is a fuse labelled “Alt Remote Sense”.
    It’s only a 5 amp fuse. If it is blown, the alternator will not know what voltage is on the batteries and will over charge them. You getting a reading of 13.0 to 13.6 volts is exactly what mine was reading.
    Once I replaced that fuse the normal operation voltage is 14.2 volts.
    It’s in the PNDB module.
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  9. Beupsoon96

    Beupsoon96 Bobtail Member

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    Alright, so you were actually on the right trail! Took it to a AIM lease shop since they are the company I went through for my truck. They replaced all 4 brand new batteries AGAIN, put a brand new alternator, and correctly tested everything. So, after 9 brand new batteries, a new alternator, and almost a week of sitting, they found out is was the whole battery module that's got the 5 amp Remote Sense fuse. It was getting red hot somewhere he said, causing the voltage on the dash to be incorrect. Alt was overcharging batteries but the dash was showing way lower voltage.

    Glad I now have this figured out, and documented for other drivers.

    If anyone is ever experiencing boiling batteries, but the dash doesn't show overcharging, it could very well be the battery module. Mine was on the passenger side, under the hood on the fire wall. Red light was solid, indicating properly working, but it wasn't actually working.
     
  10. JB7

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    Like I said in Post 13: "And hook up a scan tool or laptop to see what the ecm is reading, not just relying on the gauge, and what the modules are doing." Probably would have saved you the 4 batteries and alternator. At least it's fixed.
     
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  11. TheKentuckyTrucker

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    So I'm having a similar issue and wondered what did you figure out?
     
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