Violating a long-standing regualtion that is as clear as tea made with 2nd hand tea bags is very different from asking permission to walk your dog or getting sued for walking a dog. The reg is clear. The violation is clear. The lawsuit is inevitable and some drivers want to hope consequences will never find them if they have a sassy enough attitude and enough contempt for the system. The system is real. We complain about it, a lot. Until it is changed I choose not to volunteer for enforcement and punishment. I sure don't want to read some sob story AGAIN about a driver that knew it was wrong, did it anyway, and complains about the consequences. He volunteered for the punishment. There's nothing more fair in the world than getting the punishment that comes from a violation one knew one was making. Act like everything you do will be known and you volunteer for a lot less punishment. Learn from other people's mistakes. Learn from other people's lessons learned, or don't.
2nd Job HOS
Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by TonyFreshwheel, Feb 4, 2025.
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I've never worked two jobs, but what are the possibilitites?
Can you keep track of the hours of the second job on a piece of paper and make sure you don't violate the 70 hour part ?
There's less than a 1% chance there will be any repurcussions from your second job, but it does exist.
If you're in an accident and there is a civil lawsuit, you will most likely be deposed and I believe you have to show up and answer questions whether you want to or not. There are plenty of videos on Youtube of truck drivers sitting through depositions. -
No, just keeping track on a piece of paper is not sufficient. Both employing motor carriers must be aware of your hours of service worked for both carriers, or in the case of a 2nd job that is not trucking related, the motor carrier still must be made aware of the hours worked at the 2nd job and must have record of them to ensure you do not violate the HOS rules. Your employing motor carrier(s) will have a company policy on how to report the hours worked at extra jobs, if they even will allow it. Most do not allow a driver to have any outside employment, even non-trucking employment.
When working for multiple carriers was common it was practice to submit a third carbon copy of your log to the extra carrier. There were log books just for this with two duplicate pages and two lines for the motor carrier identification so you could check which one you were working for in any given period of time, if you were honestly reporting your hours as required. Today, in the era of ELDs, a driver would need to make an annotation and manually add the hours worked at the other carrier or job, which is problematic but possible.
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