3.42 rears to 3.58

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  1. sergk1989

    sergk1989 Bobtail Member

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    My truck is underpowered going up mountains with only 1550 torque, will going to 3.58 help? There is a parts truck with same Meritor rears just higher ratio I can swap with, but not sure if it will help much. Small hills with heavy load is not to bad and I can deal with it, just going up a steep grade is where I slow way down, much more than everyone else. My truck also has a 13 speed.
     
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  3. I glide 47

    I glide 47 Road Train Member

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    Not much maybe 370 or 390 good luck somebody more knowledgeable Will be here soon !
     
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  4. Largecar359

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    It is Not worth turning the wrenches on that one. Very little difference with those ratios. You can change them if you really want but the truck is gonna feel the same when you start tugging a hill.
    Your 13 speed is a good trans ratio, what is your tire size? If your up on 24.5 high rubber and you swap those rears and go to lo pro 24.5 tires then you would begin to see a difference. But just that swap on it’s own isn’t gonna do much for you.
     
  5. sergk1989

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    I’ve got lo pro 22.5 on the truck. I guess maybe tuning the ecm is my best bet than, if it’s minimal I wouldn’t want to get into
     
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  6. HillbillyDeluxeTruck

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    How about you tell us what kind of truck, what kind of engine, what the current rated power is, how many miles on it, etc.

    I find gearing doesnt always make up for a lack of power. For example:

    Last year I was driving a Volvo with a 12.7 Detroit set at 550hp (at the rear wheels) a 13spd and 2.79 gears.

    I have been running a 2010 KW T660 with an ISX set at 450hp, 13spd and 3.55 gears. While the 15L engine pulls well with the deeper gears. I lose speed and am considerably slower up hills than the previous set up.

    Fact is, Ive actually become a fan of taller gears with a 13spd as I can run 8th direct to achieve the same rpm as with deeper gearing and running 8th over.
     
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  7. Brettj3876

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    What tire size? Like others have said you won't feel it. Now if you went to 3.73 I think you'd be happy
     
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  8. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    I have 3.58's, and I climb pretty well. But I also have a 10 speed.

    I'd think a 13 would work pretty good with 3.42's.

    I'd guess it's probably about the same as my set up with the 10.

    If you're hauling near gross on steep hills, I run the western US, even guys with big motors aren't going up those hills all that much faster than I am.
     
  9. DUNE-T

    DUNE-T Road Train Member

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    I have 13 with 3.42 and have no complaints. You just need a stronger engine
     
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  10. Espressolane

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    Dont waste your time and money. That change will not gain anything really. Better to look into what you can do on the ECM tuning before doing hard changes to the equipment.
     
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  11. sergk1989

    sergk1989 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the advice guys, it’s a Columbia with merz 450hp with 700k miles, it’s in great shape and excellent fuel mileage. It does well on smaller hills with no problem but even lighter loads like 25k and hit a mountain it starts to struggle. I wouldn’t be spending money since we have a parts truck with a bad motor, it would just be the time and energy
     
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