3:42 rears

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  1. Rontonio

    Rontonio Road Train Member

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    if you are doing HH - you need to understand that you go up hill slow and down hill slow. That is part of the deal...

    I would like to be able to go up hill ay 65 mph but guess what - it maybe a lot closer to 6.5 mph

    and loaded to 130-140k ( which is the minimum you will be hauling a 336 (80k no bucket at least) you should expect 4 mpg or worse
     
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  3. 201

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    Do they make a 3:70?
     
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  4. Hotshot2trucker

    Hotshot2trucker Bobtail Member

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    I would try that but I have 10 brand new virgin tires on it , and the steer tires are rated for 7160 lbs each . The speed is 5 mph faster on gps than odometer so the truck was probably spec ed for 22.5s .
     
  5. uncleal13

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    How fast you go up a hill has nothing to do with gearing and everything to do with how much horsepower your engine puts out.
    Whether you go up the hill in 18 th with 3.90 or up in 16th with 3.42. You will still climb at the exact same mph.
    It only makes a difference in how often you have to shift.
    The difference gearing makes is how fast the truck will rev out at, 3.42 would have a higher potential speed. Also how steep of a hill you can readily launch the truck without frying the clutch, 3.90 has better startability.
     
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  6. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    WHY?

    All that would do is change the RPM at a given speed.
    Does nothing for the gear ratio.
    So if all you need is more RPM then shift down, IMO,
     
  7. uncleal13

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    Changing one tire size is equivalent to one step in rear end ratio.
    3.90 with 11R22.5 is about the same as 4.10 with 11R24.5
    Or going from 11R24.5 with 3.42 would be similar to a 3.55 if you only changed the tire size.
     
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  8. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    COMMON MISCONCEPTION

    Changing tire size does NOT change gear ratio. All that changes is rollout and rpm for a given speed.

    What do the numbers mean and how does tire size change that?
    Answer - it doesn't'
    The torque to the tire remains the same no matter the tire size/height.
     
  9. Hotshot2trucker

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    My isx15 is a 525 hp but truck was turned up to 550hp and it still has the vgt turbo . For some reason when I'm in 16th , 17th, and 18th at 1500 rpm with 78-80k gross the truck feels a slight sluggish so I asked about gearing thinking it might help . But what I should have asked is what do you tried and true HH drivers think it could be . Cause if it's a slight sluggish at that weight then it would probably be a worse with 120-140k gross . Trying to eliminate any future hiccups. Cause a hiccup with a 120k load could turn out worse than with 80k gross .
    Thanks in advance .
     
  10. Hotshot2trucker

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    I read somewhere that with the vgt it has 2 modes automotive and automatic. It was something about how the vgt acts . It was something about one of the modes having more torque or something like that .
     
  11. uncleal13

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    Technically correct, it is the same force on the axle to the wheel.
    One size wheel will give it slightly more leverage than the other. We're only talking about a 5% difference one way or the other. Not enough to justify the expense.
     
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