3 Preventable Accidents Within a Year

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Mufasaaaa, Dec 16, 2019.

  1. Fredterbert6666

    Fredterbert6666 Light Load Member

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    When I was training I backed into a railing at a shipper because the trainer wouldnt let me goal. It never went on my record but when I applied to another company a year later they told the new company that I hit it. What do you think the purpose of telling them is if they wouldnt put it on my record?
     
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  3. Upinsmoke

    Upinsmoke Medium Load Member

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    Any hazmat tanker outfit would be a good fit..
     
  4. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    The purpose? Do you have any idea how many drivers a year are fired by their company safety dept because they failed to inform of such an occurrence? It is way more than one or two. Sometimes a complaint or video of your event can make it back to your company before you get 100 miles away. Always BEST to make that phone call or QC message if there is ANY doubt! You let safety make that call on how they treat it.
     
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  5. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    On this informing topic. Next time you are on a dock, or in a drop yard take a good look around. If you have a good pair of binoculars use them! In the typical location, there is at least 1 and in the case of something like a Walmart, DC s there are cameras everywhere. Some are hard to see because they are in a box behind glass or a plastic lens. I have seen them on top of light poles. In fact here in Hampton Va at the place Lumber Liquidators had a warehouse, I saw 2 cameras I had to do a double-take because I would have never guessed them to be a camera. Add to this that almost all smartphones have both still image and video capability. In all seriousness, if you go into a dock and pull a stupid, you really want to risk your job by not self-reporting it?
     
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  6. tinytim

    tinytim Road Train Member

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    Did he tie you to the seat?
     
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  7. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    If you hit anything doing damage is preventable. With YOU in the drivers seat it is preventable. Generally.
     
  8. Fredterbert6666

    Fredterbert6666 Light Load Member

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    sorry, I meant what would be the purpose of my old company telling my current employer about it when they didnt put it on my record. I told them right after it happened
     
  9. Moose1958

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    Most likely BOTH carriers were complying with 391.21, 391.23, 391.25 and 391.27. Upon being asked for this information they were provided it. This compliance can come from a 3rd party means like DAC or it can come from a direct inquiry. Now, I have no idea how something that was not supposed to be on your record was transmitted like this. The only thing I can figure out is either you are mistaken or the old company told you one thing and did another. However, it's part of your files now. You have some options in regard to fixing this IF it is a mistake.
     
  10. calnca

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    Spoken like the insurance geek......when we see a driver with 3 accidents on either his mvr OR on the carriers loss runs, someone is going to pay a bunch, to allow him to drive. Depending on the state the policy is in, the insured (his boss) is likely to see either an exclusion for the knucklehead, or pay a 100% "debit" for the unit he's operating.......and depending on the state that could amount to $ 7,500 - 15,000 to allow him to drive.

    Contrary to what all you arm chair expects put out, driving record is a very solid prediction of future activity......so a knucklehead with three in 12 months is more than likely going to have another......and some insuror is going to be the one to be on the policy when he runs over a bus full of kids.
     
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  11. Moose1958

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    I try when talking to green drivers to caution them about carelessness. Even with self underwriting carriers there comes a point when enough is enough. Every time a driver gets a preventable OR there is an at-fault accident on their DMV, their choices shrink. Till finally all you can do is find a job with some jake leg outfit with CSA scores so high they are in danger of an FMCSA shutdown. You get with such a carrier you are going to be driving junk and will be going around scales all the time if possible. One problem is drivers don't fully comprehend that 53 footer behind them. I once had a green driver to sit in my driver's seat. I asked him just by looking at the California Mirrors how long would you imagine that trailer is? When they make those stupid decisions in a lot of cases they have disrespected just how long that trailer is. 53 feet is a long way. That back tandem swing is nowhere near the tandems on the tractor. I can't remember how many times I have run screaming at a driver to stop because they were in a truck stop or terminal and were about to hit something. I am not sure how to fix this. I know my words sound ignorant. Drivers seem to always have problems with this. Also, another problem is drivers smacking the right side of their tractor during an alley dock because they developed tunnel vision. You CAN NOT do this. It is inevitable that at some point such a driver will start costing a carrier more then they are worth. Then you are uninsurable and unemployable because of it. There is a guy doing short-order food prep near my home. This guy used to drive for SWIFT and was fired by them. Not even Carolina cargo would touch him.
     
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