32 yarder for residential pick up

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  2. Mike2633

    Mike2633 Road Train Member

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    In Cleveland most of the municipalities that still are on the rear load system or not converted over to automated pretty much use the big 31 yard bodies.
    31 yard rear loader with drop axle is pretty common for residential pick up on Cleveland's west side and with the west side suburbs.

    Rocky River, Lakewood, who ever Zanesville, Ohio they like there 31 yard trucks. The 20 and 25 yard bodies are more for commercial work, or really small communities like Woodmere, Ohio that has 1maybe 2 garbage trucks and they are single axle. And also double as the cities snow plows.

    But generally the 20-25 yard trucks are used to grab dumpsters. Not every commercial building is suited for front load dumpsters older neighborhoods that are hard to maneuver are more suited for rear load dumpsters so the smaller bodies 20-25 yards do better in tight spaces.

    But residential streets where you're just driving straight down the street and not doing crazy backing maneuvers the bigger bodies are better, because why not?

    Back in the day Pakmor actually had refuse trailers, which aren't really a thing as much as they used to be, but in the 1950s Pakmor Corp made these refuse trailers that could do like 450 houses a day:
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    And they were 28-30 odd yards and meant specifically for like big time residential routes. They were meant to go and go pretty cool. It all depends on the neighborhood sure, but I think with most residential pick up pay load is a bigger issue then maneuverability.
     
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    @Ruthless

    This whole story seems like a totally half baked thing, especially since the recycling market has bottomed out.


    What do you make of this.
     
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    Lol well, clearly somebody that knows somebody just got $1m for a study to say “charge more for throwing out garbage”

    And somebody else that knows somebody will get xx% of the revenue generated by charging for garbage removal. And years from now those people will be out of favor, and there will be another million dollar study to show that there are big flaws with the (then current) charge for garbage scheme, at which point the people in charge will find a “better solution” which will keep service the same or worse, and charge more for it, so someone new that knows somebody gets their xx% which will be increased for inflation.

    Pretty much.
     
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    So this is interesting I'm going to make my list of top picks for refuse collection vehicles.

    For automated side loader I'm a fan of
    AMREP'S Octagonal if I was city services manager that would be our truck the AMREP Octagonal which is a very popular unit on the west coast and very very popular with the city of Los Angeles, California department of Sanitation. The city of Los Angeles, California owns about 800 refuse trucks and probably 85% of there fleet is the AMREP for automated collection.


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    The City of L.A. is a huge buyer of this truck there one of Amreps biggest customers. What I like about the Amreps vs other automated trucks I've seen is the arm mechanism and action on the arm mechanisms seems much stronger, sturdier and has a lot smoother action to it then a lot of the other side loaders I've seen especially a lot of the east coast side loaders have these real hurky jerky arms that look real fragile and they break down all the time. The city of Brooklyn, Ohio said that was a big problem for them was that there side loader fleet the arms tend to break a lot and need a lot of work.
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    Another nice thing about the Octagonal body of the Amreps is the fact that it's easier to see down the side of the body.

    Also Amrep has an interesting design for the packer blade.
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    They have a shelf and like a half packer blade and what's interesting is the trucks can continuously pack and load. The trucks don't always need to stop and do a pack cycle.
    Amrep's newer trucks have a computer counter to where the driver can set the packer blade to cycle automatically after what ever number of can's they enter into the computer. So they might set the packer blade to cycle every 5 "carts" or so. A "cart" is the garbage industry term for the 96 gallon standard trash bin or tote that cities with automated collection have.

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    Man who kmew garbage is so awesone, thos is a fasinating thred
     
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    That cabover mack looks like it can do the job very well and maybe get to dumpsters in the front EXTREMELY well.

    But if money is not the object I would have had that steer tire under giant airride bags. I don't know if I can ever stand driving that beast on our concrete plate roads which is being replaced by YUP, another set of concrete plate roads with a third lane added. If it was Maryland with it's SMOOTH blacktop roads I would take it in a heart beat.

    One difference. I would put floating tires on the front. I don't know the revelant sizes but 24.00's wont cut it. I'll want fat swamp crawlers under there. In fact, I might modify that order to install a second steer axle about 6 feet behind the first and make it a conventional cab.
     
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    It's really cool all the trucks and tools they have to collect garbage it's runs the gammet from automated, to manual to semi automated the garbage business is like the railroad business where they have found a way to create a tool to haul pretty much anything that needs to be hauled in almost anyway possible.
     
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    For cab over garbage trucks there's about 6 choices to choose from.

    #1. Choice for rear load and residential collection is the Mack LR
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    The Mack LR is a low ride set back axle truck and chassis the New York City Department of Sanitation has 2500 Refuse Collection Trucks almost all of them are Mack LR's.

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    The cab is extremely low to the ground and makes it very easy for the staff to hop in and out of the truck with the greatest of ease. It's really a good unit for residential collection or rear load work, but can absolutely be used for front load work as well.

    Second Choice for cab overs is the famous Mack Terra Pro:
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    This truck the cab sits up a tad higher and doesn't have the different door options it's more meant for commercial operations or (2) man truck operations.
    It's similar to the LR, but the cab is higher off the ground and is more popular with rear load commercial routes or front load routes.

    This is an older Mack Terra Pro working for Rambone disposal of Rhode Island doing a rear load commercial route.
     
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    Next will talk about Crane Carrier Corp.
     
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