34 Hour Restart

Amen to that

 

Now that you've re-read my page 13 post, here's a simple way of understanding the 11 & 14-hour rules:

Here's an easy way to read that rule:

11-hour rule: I (you) can not drive more than 11-hours after your last complete rest period until you have/take another complete rest period.
14-hour rule: I (You) can not drive after working (line 3 & 4 added together) 14 hours since your last complete rest period until you have/take another complete rest period.
Then once you have/take another complete rest period you can do that all over again.

The 11-hour rules says that you many not DRIVE more than 11-hours since your last rest period. The 14-hour rules says you can't DRIVE after the 14th hour until you have had another rest period.

So, you have 14 hours to be able to drive for 11. These 14 hours include pre & post-trip inspections, driving time, loading & unloading time etc. BUT the 14-hour rule merely says you can't DRIVE after 14-hours. You can still load & unload, fix the truck etc. and take longer than 14-hours because you weren't driving. Then once you take another rest break you can begin driving for another 11-hours, but in this period you again can't drive after the 14th hour. Then the cycle starts again after your next rest period.

The 60/70 hour rules state that you may not DRIVE after you have worked (lines 3 & 4 added together) 70 hours. Again, nothing says you can't work (load & unload etc.) but you merely can't DRIVE after 70 hours. But now in order to begin all over again you must now rest at least 34-hours.

Now, did I mention a day? Absolutely not!!! You see, once you get that word out of your mind the rule becomes extremely simple.

 

Thank you for finally putting it into something other than the regulation speak. I didn’t go to school for driving and I have been driving trucks in down town Boston delivering beer and stuff, so being from a local delivery company I haven’t had to keep logs. I know your a retired DOT guy, that’s why I looked to you for the best description of the rule and I understand that it’s SIMPLE to y’all, because you have been doing it for so long and its second nature, like driving home, you don’t really think about it, you just get in and go. I only had a few questions that required a yes or no answer to them and a brief description of where I went wrong and I got quoted the rule book, well if I understood the rule book I wouldn’t have asked for help in the first place.. I’m sorry if I frustrated y’all, I just need to understand. Thank you for your help and a better explanation on the last post.

 

LogsRus I would have PM'd you back but I don't have enough posts yet, almost there though and thank you!!

 

Glad we could help. I hope you have a better understanding now than you did when you got here and I assure you everyones intentions was to help. If you ever feel like getting kicked around again just let us know.Lol......JUST KIDDING. Logs and psanderson are both excellent advisers when it comes to the log book and regs. Hope all goes well with you.

 

Our company allows us to pull a empty set home as off duty, But we have to have 10 hours off duty not counting the drive time home, and then we count travel plus the 10 as off duty. Seems to fly with dot inspections here in ca .

 

Sorry, but legally, the driving time home is line 3 while pulling ANY trailer. Somewhere along the line, if caught, you could be held liable for civil penalties (fines).

 

I was wondering about something, if you start your day out and drop a load off somewhere and are bobtailing out to your house off duty and you've already driven your 11, would you be in violation? Would this truly be considered off duty or would they put you out of service with penalty if you were pulled into the scalehouse?

Also, do you have to log the off duty driven mileage? Just to clarify, you'd only be driving 30 to 40 miles or so off duty to your house, but you used up your 11 getting to the consignee.

 

You stated this a little misleading, the 14hrs includes all time on all lines even off duty, and sleeper time less than 8hrs. If you take sleeper of 8-10hrs this can be left out of the 14 hrs but all other time is figured into the 14.

 

You're correct. Any rest period less than 8 must be considered as on-duty, not driving. Didn't I post that earlier?