34 hr restart???

it's been announced on the radio a time or two. When the whole insurance raise was discussed.

The higher percentage of all trucking accidents, are trucks with elogs. I think they said the ratio was 70% elogs to 30% paper logs.

Of course, that statistic will never be a consideration in all the gooberment rules.

 

I would like to see details behind those stats. Since most of the folks who are using e-logs are the mega carrier types, it would beg the question as to what the level of driver experience was. Back when I was training new drivers in the 90's, I made it a point to tell each of them that the odds are against them that they can get thru their first full year of driving without having a preventable accident. My hope was to keep them focused on the fact that they have to be extra diligent as they build their experience.

Along that line, since the mega's have a higher percentage of new drivers, it would be interesting to see if skill level played into it more than e-log. It is pretty bizarre to think that a log, either paper or electronic, could influence accident levels. I have been using e-log voluntarily for 4 years now, safely driving has nothing to do with an e-log but the driver mindset. If someone can be intimidated by a box, they have serious issues that calls for therapy. I would contend they did not have the proper mindset to do this line of work to begin with.

Also, it has been statistically determined that most accidents occur within the 1st hour of driving for the day. Not sure how an e-log would affect that. I wouldn't think anyone is trying to "beat the clock" within the 1st hour of driving.

Well, it really doesn't matter, I guess. Unless things get changed, everyone is going to be on e-logs in 2 years. Guess we will find out for certain if they are a problem. And you are probably right... any negative stat will not get much consideration if it is true. That would go against the agenda.

 

Is that for real that 2000 model trucks and earlier are exempt from e-logs?

 

Agreed. The issue is with the skill set of the sample, not the input/output device bolted to the dash.
I worked for a tanker carrier as a dispatcher the groups with the two highest sets of safety incidents were "Day 1-365," and "Years 5-7," and drivers had to have 12 months minimum to get an interview. So, the "rookie," group would make new guy mistakes and the second set were making errors because of complacency. It had nothing to do with training or equipment, it was all about driver focus.

 

they should be crunching all the data now, i was in the study along with some co-workers, they gathered all the data a couple of months ago.

 

Someone wrote that fleets with less than three trucks were exempt too.

 

Not hardly

 

Personal conveyance is now to be logged as on duty. ####s up your 34 if you bobtail to Walmart to restock...

 

Not according to the actual ELD mandate document. Personal conveyance is still allowed, as is short yard moves and such, without driving time logged or on duty. See pages 308-310 of the document. If you can show different, please post pages that support your contention for all of us to go investigate ourselves. True, the ELD is required to document vehicle movement, but it is not always required to be On Duty or Driving status. As per the ELD regulation document itself says.. there is no change to anything related to HOS. And personal conveyance is allowed as part of the HOS.

 

And that is incorrect ,