359 tach signal wire

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  1. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    IMG_3538.jpeg I will spare you the details, but where does a 359 with a 3406b get its' tach signal from? I assume from the alternator but where on the alternator? There is no loose wire that I can see that should be connected to the alt...only pos wire and a neg ground wire. this is what i get for letting someone change my alternator. it was working fine before.
     
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  3. rank

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    On a Delco type altenator the terminal could be a "T", "S"' or "W", for Tach, Sense, or Waveform respectively.
     
  5. Ridgeline

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    That's a Leece Neville Alternator, I am guessing it is a 8LHA 140 or 160 amp alternator.

    SO it is really simple, the three terminals on the bottom are Stator taps and can be used for a tach. It is 8 pulses per revolution of the alternator.
     
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    The tach signal comes from bottom of the rear structure. A speed sensor reads the flywheel ring. The harness is a twisted pair all the way up to where they hook to the rear of the tach
     
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    hey Ridge. but the guy that swapped it swears that there was no wire going to those taps and i cant find a loose wire either. he took it off. i got it tested. he put it back on. now the tach doesnt work. its a 160
     
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    thanks wore. i guess i will have to start at the tach and find where those wires disappeared to. helluva frustrating thing when a guy can't even swap a alternator lol
     
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  9. Dino soar

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    The thing is though the wiring should already be there.

    I'm not sure which trucks had it and which did not, but most of those trucks had a magnetic sensor under the bell housing that reads the flywheel rotations.

    If you're saying that your tach was working and then somebody changed the alternator you need to go back to them.

    Sounds like there's a story with that and you probably don't want to go back there, and if not you need to get some long test wires and an ohm meter and find where those wires are for your tach.

    For the hell of it I would just crawl underneath there and see if you do have a sensor under the bellhousing.

    And if it only had a connection at the alternator, you've got to keep looking down the frame. The wire has to be there.

    And in the worst case scenario, you're going to have to run your own wire from the tach to however you're going to read it whether it's the alternator or the sensor on the bottom.

    I don't know what kind of truck you have but I think on most of the trucks the wiring harness comes out on the right side and there's a plug there and inside of that harness the tach wire is somewhere in there. You have to look through a wiring diagram to see which wire it is but you could jump it there if you had to.

    I know it's a pain in the you know what and maybe you'll have to hire somebody to do it, but of all the problems you have it's really not that big and it shouldn't cost you much, even if you have to pay someone to fix that up for you, unfortunately.
     
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    it's an '86 359 and it was my employee that took the alternator off. I was underneath earlier today and I do believe there is a sensor on the flywheel. There is wires coming off the back of the tach and they go into a harness with a bunch of other wires. I just dont understand how he could misplace a wire off the alternator and we both can't see it dangling somewhere. I always tell him take pictures before you tear into something but he never does sigh. Oh well that's what I get for not doing it myself lol
     
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    Anything loose in the battery box?
     
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