400 trucks posted and only 352 loads in houston,tx

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by BAYOU, Dec 13, 2012.

  1. richhawn

    richhawn Light Load Member

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    Here is the eay i look at it. If i haul a good paying load to a area that freight isnt paying so good, if i don't take a load for a couple days that means the load i do get is going to have to pay alot better than what i was expecting because i set for two days where if i take a less paying load i would be back to a area with better paying freight. Also i i look at my rate per mile at the end of the week and not on every load.
     
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  3. BAYOU

    BAYOU Road Train Member

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    The problem I'm seeing is I don't see good paying freight anywhere Memphis,tn has always been good to me not last time Kansas city,mo I ran a lane there a long time now it's paying $1.50 a/mile Houston,tx to ND I did that run two years ago once a week it paid $5,700 going and pulled hay back for $2,200 and dropped on sat did a restart Sunday and back on the road Monday

    Ran a run from Youngstown,oh back to Houston that run paid $3,200 now it pays $2,400 I'm just not swing good paying freight anywhere
     
  4. Les2

    Les2 Road Train Member

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    That whole theory..."A load on my trailer is money in my pocket" is stupid! Unfortunately there are many who go by it and that is why rates are cheap.

    Also looking at your rate per mile at the end of the week isn't a very good idea. If the truck breaks on Wednesday, your week is over! Yeah I bet you didn't think of that did ya...? Don't worry most don't, and that is why they end up losing everything.

    Have a friend who lived by this theory, he lost everything!

    No offense, but you are part of the problem.... You may also want to consider going to a mileage based company if you just like to work. In the end you will probably make more money if you think of the fact that most pay IFTA plus get good fuel discounts along with many other fringe benefits. I often wonder why people don't consider that option when all they want to do is turn miles.

    Whether any of you like it or not, we do dictate the rates. You can tell yourselves all you want its the brokers, but in the end we are the ones who are hauling it for the rate agreed upon. So if it isn't enough, don't haul it! If TX freight is so cheap, don't go, or don't go cheap!

    Personally I'll never really understand the big deal about TX.. Its a big empty state that is over run by Mexicans and cheap freight.
     
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  5. richhawn

    richhawn Light Load Member

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    So here is the deal, you expect lets say $2.00 a mile so you wont haul a load for less than $2 but one comes up for $1.70 and you do take it to get out of that area and when you deliver that load you get one for $2.50 in the end you made $2.10 a mile and didnt set and wait. Where if you didn't take it, and had to wait 2 days you just lost 2 days and still only made $2 a mile -1000 miles which is $2100 in revenue.
    So in the long run when you think you are saving money by not hauling taking that load to a better area you are actually loosing money. I have been running percentage my whole carrier and it all come down to bottom line no matter what business we are in.
     
  6. crackinwise

    crackinwise Medium Load Member

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    Im guessing the assumption is that both loads require no DH and both are 1000 mile runs? Im thinking if you add in DH and the reality that the cheap load might end up being more miles than the higher paying load that $2.10 avg could drop pretty quickly. I think the basis for the argument is if no one justifies hauling the cheap stuff and sticks to their guns on rates you will see the price come up. If you find a reason to haul cheap freight then youll always see rates stay down use supply and demand to your advantage and you can make a difference.
     
  7. richhawn

    richhawn Light Load Member

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    The real question is what is cheap. Because we all have different situations and need different amount of money. Because my truck is paid for and have no truck payment. I dont need the rate a guy with a $500 payment needs. So cheap to one is not necessarily cheap to the next guy. LOL
     
  8. BAYOU

    BAYOU Road Train Member

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    Supply and demand don't change much some places I go to have lots of freight but brokers just refuse to pay money I called on a load one day 1,500 miles from Denver,Co and broker told me he just moved 20 loads out of there for $1.25 a mile I said what's Denver got to do with this run he told me that's what truckers are moving freight for!!!
     
  9. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    Well, i have spent most of my weekend looking thru loads, rates and making a spreadsheet for myself and the area's i want to run. I need $3 mile out of Chicago to the midwest, $4 mile to TX/ND/WA/FL. With the $ on those rates I can turn a round back for $1.75 mile and still manage to descent RPM for the week on little miles. Now i don't want to do this, but at this time of a year, you just need to figure out your costs and what area's you want to go into. I've noticed that the runs into MN and MI have gone up quite a bit since they have gotten some snow already. I am going to work on heading in those directions AFTER Christmas, and see how well i can do. Luckily, i paid off my truck this week so now I don't have that big overhead payment to make. I have been able to get my maintence account built back-up and things are running good so far besides me needing a new 5th wheel, and some fenders for the drives. My next big thing is to get my own trailer, prob in March. I'm going to buckle down harder and try to run this operation more from the point of a business owner and not a driver, which i how I've basically ran all year trying to play catch-up and get things where I needed them. To be honest,, i haven't kept very good track of any of my expenses, just knowing that I base my loads on 6mpg and try to figure it out from there. If it wasn't for some of the spot market rates and OS loads I hauled, i may not have made it at all. Luck was on my side this year and I was able to do well.

    2013 is going to be the year I buckle down and track EVERYTHING (which i should have been doing since day 1) and really see if I can do better in other areas. Trying to make the same money on short miles, which means I may have to specialize and start running escorted loads but if it makes me the same revenue with 1/3 the miles then I'm all about it.

    End of my babble.....
     
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  10. Les2

    Les2 Road Train Member

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    OK so what if a guy like you comes along into that 2.50 a mile area and hauls the load for 1.70 a mile...? Then when you get there the broker then expects you to run it for the same rate also... See my point yet? I know Bayou knows what I mean with that load out of Ohio going to TX....

    First off lets all be honest here.... If you are getting 1.70 a mile out of TX you are doing good, we all know that. Now I'm talking freight out of TX heading back up to midwest area. Most stuff out of TX is only paying 1.25 to 1.50 a mile. Personally I'll deadhead out and let all the other suckers haul it.

    Now Intrastate TX freight pays pretty good. Atleast the load I did, did...lol

    I could go on and on, but there really is no point in doing so.
     
  11. BAYOU

    BAYOU Road Train Member

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    The problem is not even loads going into Texas pays good anymore, I'm pulling out of here Monday and running all week the next two weeks after that will be dead and I'm not DH back home or sitting for weeks at a truck stop so will see how it goes
     
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