5mph and I am on drive line .. Is that standard now?

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  1. Redtwin

    Redtwin Road Train Member

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    I have had a call from dispatch asking why I was still at the truck stop past my delivery appointment time at consignee 7 miles away. I told them I was at the consignee, backed into a dock and being unloaded as we speak.

    "Oh, it looks like you are still parked at the truckstop"

    GPS tracking obviously isn't infallible
     
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  3. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    So, if a local driver for weather related reasons for example has to shut down on the road like I had to do a couple weeks ago, we should be pretty much SOL in your opinion?
     
  4. DSK333

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    What does that have to do with Personal Conveyance? You would use the Adverse Driving Conditions Exemption for such an occurrence.
     
  5. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    No, your missing the point.

    For example, drop the trailer somewhere and bobtail to a hotel.

    After checking in and getting your room, one may want to go back out and get a bite to eat or go to a store to get toiletries or other things he might need. In your scenario they wouldn’t be able to because “company guys shouldn’t be allowed to use personal conveyance”.
     
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  6. DSK333

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    I'm not missing the point. You didn't include any details initially other than weather. Why would you need PC for this though? Are you also out of hours? If the answer is yes and you are in fact out of hours I wouldn't want company guys driving the truck around for personal use. The hotel room you chose has all those things in it or near by. Also, your truck itself should have those things anyway. Furthermore, if you're claiming the weather was your issue as you've previously mentioned you shouldn't have to leave the trailer anywhere if you can ride bobtail. Roads can't be that bad if you can scoot around on unloaded empty tandems.
     
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  7. MACK E-6

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    Well, in the situation I had, wind shut down all the bridges and thereby every route to get back to the yard.

    Is this not what it was intended for?

    So again, screw the company guys, right? As if they wouldn’t run into any at all of the same situations that an owner op might find on the road.

    ....Soap and shampoo perhaps, but not toothbrushes, deodorant, or contact lens cases and saline.

    No, we don’t typically keep that sort of thing handy. That’s why we’re called “local drivers” and drive daycabs. We operate under the assumption of getting back home the same day.

    If you ever wind up in need of getting a room, you HAVE to leave the trailer somewhere. Most, if not all hotels can not only not accommodate 48’ worth of trailer, but don’t want them in the lot at all, while bobtails they won’t mind.

    Again, it was bridge conditions, not road conditions, and it wouldn’t even have to be that. We had a driver wind up in a hotel due to a bad brake chamber, and the moron that was sent out to fix it decided to make that job last all night.

    He dropped the trailer and went to hotel, but according to you he should have to go without supper because “company guys shouldn’t be allowed to use personal conveyance”, despite obviously not advancing the load. :rolleyes:

    You seriously ground my gears with that statement, and nobody should have to be subject to that double standard.
     
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  8. DSK333

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    Indeed, screw the company guy. Driving a truck around on PC as a company guy is asking for trouble and I wouldn't want one of my guys doing it with one of my trucks. Does putting words in my mouth make you feel better? What you're describing can all be done within hours in route and/or under the ADC Exemption. And if they're really local like not even expected to due any RODS then why do they need any of that anyway? If they can bobtail somewhere then they can bobtail home. I have no remorse.
     
  9. MACK E-6

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    “Asking for trouble”... how? What is the risk? :?

    Well, what do you expect? How else is one supposed interpret that?

    Some of us, including myself, have long runs which take us to the limit of the air mile radius, so going into a log book a few times a month is not inconceivable.

    Now, add one of the incidents I described before on top of that, and one will have a decision or two to make.

    ...And in the situation I had, that’s what I wound up doing.
     
  10. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    If I'm getting a room, most likely it is because I'm out of hours for the day and cannot make it home. That wasn't any different back in my company driver days. Under the regulations, you are allowed to drive a CMV off duty in the same manner and for the same purposes that you'd drive your POV if you had it with you...personal errands, food, entertainment, lodging, etc. For example, you're taking your 34 and want to go see a movie, you're allowed to drive to the theater and back. Get hungry and want something other than the crap at the truck stop, you can drive to a real restaurant and back. Hell, the other day I was on my way home...dropped my loaded trailer at the Mack dealer and PC'd the mile over to the sitter's house to pick up my boy...then PC'd back to Mack to grab my trailer and line 3 the 30 minutes back to the house. Saturday, I delivered about 45 minutes from the house...then PC'd around that town to several different places I needed to do business with...then back to line 3 to go home. That's what PC is for, and it doesn't matter if you're a company driver or an O/O. If you're doing PERSONAL errands, you can use the CMV as a means of CONVEYANCE to do what you need to do so long as you meet certain criteria...namely that you aren't carrying a load (unladen) and you aren't advancing toward your next load. If you don't own the truck, you also need the owner's permission.
     
  11. DSK333

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    I've made my position quite clear. If one doesn't own the truck they shouldn't be using PC. The ADC covers any situation for a company guy for abnormal situations and if the company driver wants to do personal things in the company truck he/she can do it within their 70. I'm shocked you're so triggered over my opinion. Don't know what else to tell you, bud.
     
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