5mph and I am on drive line .. Is that standard now?

I know what you mean; it's one thing to drive around a yard or truck stop or even a couple of blocks at 25 mph, but 4 is another story. Personally, I'll just have to learn to change my habits once again, 4mph is going to be a dangerous annoyance and not acceptable.
I hope the hos are amended and we can stop the clock for a couple of hours, that would make it more bearable to me, but essentially a lot of us will have to re learn our whole m.o..
I'm a little too young to retire and I love what I do, so I'll have to make the best of it myself.

 

That's my point. Why then don't they trip the Drive time at 1 mph so we can just go on about our business knowing we're screwed. And pay by the hour/minimum so it's no longer an issue.

Why allow drivers to "cheat" but only if they drag out the process at 4 mph, wasting other driver's time who have the misfortune of being behind them? Now they're having to waste valuable time too.

 

Agreed. The alleged whole point to the ELD mandate was to "level the playing field" and stop the cheating. Well, LET'S GET TO IT! 1 MPH automatic drive line 3 entry. and bring on the driver facing cameras too. That way we can see first hand whether they truly are on line 1 or 2 as the digital god claims. NO MORE CHEATING THE HOS!

 

This will totally suck for tanker drivers, Arrive at customer go on duty scale in, drive to office to check in, drive back to loading racks, drive back to scale out, drive back to office for paperwork.
That should all be on duty only.
Me being local won't bother me none, But regional and otr guys will nickel and dime their 14 hr. clock.
For now its no big deal we're on AOBRDs, But Dec. 2019 it all changes.
Maybe they'll make some kind of allowance for being with in a customers gates?

 

Nah, chances are they will migrate to a salary for your 70. Sure you can opt for possible more money cpm, but then that could screw you too....

 

Exactly. "Yard move" is a fraudulent way to mask drive time as on duty NOT driving. Don't see how you can "move" a truck without driving it. In the days of paper logs, you were limited to 15 minute blocks...flag and note the duration of time if less than 15 minutes...but generally speaking, you logged it as best as practical using what you had to work with. ELD's can track your time down to the minute...to the second, even, if they wanted to. No reason at all NOT to log your time as you do it. If you're behind the wheel and you aren't parked, you're driving.

 

You're not going to get rich driving a maximum of 1.5 miles at 25 mph. Really? If somebody is willing to "game the system" with that process, they should be awarded Employee of the Year with that level of devotion.

 

Tankers are no different than any other truck IMO. Lots of stopping and going at both ends of most loads for all deliveries.

 

Considering the size of many of these places and mandatory 15 mph speed limits, running around back and forth is going to eat up a lot of valuable Drive time or a lot of man-hour time crawling around at 4 mph if you're trying to avoid burning Drive time.

Ridiculously low speed thresholds is stupid, especially for cpm drivers who don't get additional pay for each and every pick up and drop. End of discussion.