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Hello all, 1st post and sorry if this is the wrong place to post.
I am a company driver and I recently dropped a trailer to my drive tires. This happened while checking the trailer brakes, but after my initial tug test and visual inspection.
The trailer was low and the truck/trailer was straight so there was no chance at a high hook. The shop couldn’t find anything wrong, so I went back to the trailer and it didn’t connect at all the first time I bumped the kingpin.
Since then it’s been fine.
I took pictures of the 5th Wheel immediately after the trailer dropped and of what it’s normally supposed to look like.
It looks like half the locking jaw retracted.
5th Wheel issue
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by zakeeus, Apr 13, 2019.
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What happened is you had a bad hook. It happens from time to time. It's why you tug as soon as you hook (before you raise the landing gear) and VISUALLY CHECK THE JAWS with a flashlight every time.
It looks like you have a little grease build up. Manually trip the 5th wheel, the pour some diesel over the jaws and the locking mechanism as you work the handle in and out. Do this once a month in the winter and a couple of times during the summer and you will rarely have bad hooksDiesel Dave, EuropeanTrucker, x1Heavy and 3 others Thank this. -
I can let them know about the grease, but I still don’t understand how it went from properly locked around the kingpin to half retracted.
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It wasn't properly locked. If you looked with a flashlight you would have seen the jaws only 50-90% around. Most bad hooks will pass the intial tug test, but will disconect with any kibd of real motion, especially if you pull twoards the right at all.
When YOU (not the shop) trip your 5tg wheel manually, watch how fast it snaps around . Once you pour the diesel over whilr working the handle , trip it again and notice the speed difference. -
I don’t know what you mean about it snapping around. I have noticed that my 5th Wheel is a little harder to pull than some of the other trucks on the yard. Is that what you mean? I wish I would have taken a picture of the jaws around the kingpin, everything was normal.
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Yes, the hard pull is indicative of grease build up.
Take a crow bar and push where rhe kingpin would hit. It will take some force, but it will trip the jaws and they will snap around and closed, but not that quickly. The problem is the grease build up delays or slows the jaws enough so they drag on the king pin and don't lock all the way. Most of the time it looks like your picture, but sometimes it gets almost all the way and you can see just a slight sliver of differnt shaded metal.MACK E-6, Tombstone69, Digger130 and 1 other person Thank this. -
I'm wondering if you are driving a Volvo.
I dropped at trailer at low speed on a Love's parking lot in Kansas. This was after having pulled this trailer from California.
Ended up taking said Volvo to a dealership in KC. They fixed it and I picked up a load going back to California. My co-driver had problems hooking to another empty in California, so we bobtailed back to the yard.
The competent folks at 8 Point fixed it and all was well. It was a wonder that trailer didn't drop along the interstate.
The moral of the story is that the 5th wheel in question might be broken and in need of expert repair by a specialist. -
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A fifth wheel may fail once in a while in this manner. Always without fail in this case tug your trailer after hook. Even if you had a nice CLANK! that reached into your soul. Always tug it. If you do not, she's going to sneak off there in say Dumfries VA during rush and YOU will be very famous for all sorts of bad reasons...Lepton1 Thanks this. -
Does anyone else feel a slight bump from a take off from a stop light from the trailer sliding back?
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