65k, 4 chains, good to go

Discussion in 'Heavy Haul Trucking Forum' started by Old Man, May 6, 2019.

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    Ok, get off my back about this. I've hauled very little flatbed, and even less drop deck. I never thought all that hassle was worth it. Ok? Enough, got it, now move along,,
     
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  3. W900AOwner

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    Nobody's on yer back about nothing. It's just good practice that what's right is right...that's all.
     
  4. W900AOwner

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    Well said Humblepie. There can be a thousand opinions on every subject. But when it comes to things like this, it's critical to do it right or not at all.

    For instance, you mentioned shock load on chains. Very real scenario. For that very reason, whenever it is physically and mathematically possible, I ALWAYS chain the axles down on anything with spring (or air) suspension whenever possible. The theory is to let the suspension work freely, and keep the axles chained down to eliminate the shock load on the chains. If you chain to the frame and load the suspension, while in motion those chains are up against all that force of every bump, in time stretching or breaking it. Been there, done that, got the T shirt from years ago.

    When you own your own gear, and you spend a grand on chains and ratchet binders to do things properly, you tend to think of ways to help prolong their life cycle. I keep my ratchet binders lubed up constantly so they work nice, and make life easier.
     
  5. fast1buzz

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    Didn't we go thru this before on this subject , rules of securement ? Only thing I might add is you either use the lock link on the articulation or the two chains is what the FMCSA wants in its regulations.
     
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  6. W900AOwner

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    Talk (and forum chatter,) is cheap; It's (in my past experiences) pretty evident that every single violation, law, written and/or expressed, is the sole opinion of each and every individual officer that's on scene.

    Some of them are blubberheads and just blurt out senseless jibberish (like some truck drivers I might add,) and others "try" to enforce the laws properly. I've had a cop tell me he didn't "like" chains crossed even with my firehose protectors...he's an idiot. Had another tell me he needed to see my overweight permit in my home town mind you, when I was empty. A town cop with no brains, trying to tell me he was the new DOT officer in town. I told him to call the "real" one, the DMV commercial enforcement officer and I'll show HIM anything he wants to see, but not a town cop. He changed the subject.

    It's a gong show most of the time.
     
  7. johndeere4020

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    Can you show me where it says that the DOT requires chains that touch to have something between them?
     
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  8. W900AOwner

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    The honest answer is NO, I can't personally show you that. But all I can say is that I have been checked twice in the last 10 years on a scale house property, one in Virginia and one in NY (not permanent NY scale, portable/rest area inspection,) and both the inspectors commented on the contact point protection I use. They both agreed it is "required" and they don't like to see chains make contact with one another and chafing. That's what I mean by my last post, that it's in each and every individual cop's personal opinion how your day is going to be, absurd as it may be.
     
  9. 6wheeler

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    Every time I haul something with wheels, it seems as if nothing stays tight
     
  10. johndeere4020

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    Yes and no, it’s not a legal requirement. Is it worth arguing? Maybe not but if they insist I’d make them write me for it and beat them later. My point was you’re making statements that aren’t true while chastising others.
     
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  11. Tb0n3

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    That's me every time I haul grain elevator parts.
     
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