8 day 70 hour rule?

so in a nutshell, run 3 log books and hope you dont get caught, or do the 10 hours a day and you will never run out. now if you are on electronic logs, it will be much harder to pull this off. 95% of trucking is proper trip planning. you can not make your destination times screwing around in the truck stops. i despise truck stops. i wont sleep at one for anything. give me a rest area or a ramp any day.

keep that left door shut and roll on down the road and you will be ok. like i said, it is all about planning your trip. know where you are going, know the traffic flow at the time you will be there, know where you can stop and get in and out the fastest, etc. this is much easier with paper logs. i would go as far as you can go to the receiver, and park. most of the places i have been going have parking at the site or very near there. just learn to manage your time and it will all work out at the end of the week.

 

Welcome to trucking you no longer work an 8 hour day. Your hours reset to zero at midnight, regardless if you start driving at noon, or at 3 am. The rest of the hours are for fueling, showers, eating, fixing your truck, and what ever else you can get away with.

 

Actually, it is. That means it's company policy for anytime you are off duty, that you aren't responsible for that truck and load, even if you're at a shipper/consignee....which as you know, DOT otherwise considers you On-Duty. This is per the definitions and note specifically the Motor Carrier mention.

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So you see, that letter is what makes you logging yourself as off-duty at a shipper, legal....because the Motor Carrier has relieved you of all responsibility when there, and NOT doing anything, otherwise all time at a shipper must be logged as On-Duty time. Understand now?

 

your right about that. can't tell you how many times i've been put out of service. told to have a good day and drove away with a clean inspection.

 

You are lucky if you don't have to sit and wait; Tyson, Sanderson Farms, Smithfield, potato loads. It seems as if some of them don't even have a clue on how to count a load when they are loading so that holds it up even more.

 

I understand no letter is specified in the regulation. A policy could be explained at orientation or off duty status could be allowed by phone on a case by case basis .I have never been asked for a letter when my log shows off duty when inspected.

 

Tyson in Holcomb Kansas is the worst. You drop off an empty trailer and wait up to 2 days to get it loaded and back.

 

Navajo dispatchers want you to log off duty, even when you are standing in the trailer pulling stickers off palets, or counting freight going into the truck. Even at customs. I really went the round with my dispatcher over that, and he LOST!

 

The letter is implied, since you can't have proof that a Motor Carrier has allowed you to be off duty, otherwise.

Then according to the regulations, without that letter of permission from the motor carrier, you are in violation of the section regarding HOS. When you are checked and don't have that letter, you can be cited for a violation. Can't be an unspoken/spoken policy mentioned in passing. It must be a signed letter from the employer/carrier, or your logging otherwise isn't legal.

You know what they say, show it in writing.

Had one from every company I've had, so I know I'm not imagining the procedure.

Basically I've shown the cites and legal requirement for, how about you show me cites or something authoritative that supports your position instead of just your opinion.

 

If you run recap, you can work up to 61.25 hours a week. If you run reset, you can work up to 81 hours per week...

Unless you are in the sleeper. You can perform on-duty activities in the sleeper and still legally record it as SB for the logs...