90 degree alleydock and 45 degree alleydock

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  1. Cattleman84

    Cattleman84 Road Train Member

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    3.1416 was always close enough for me
     
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  3. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    Like matches like is more elegant than like matches unlike.

    Why should a straight line back be a zero degree back instead of a 180 degree back? If there is zero change in direction of the truck in a back, then it is more elegant to have the back called a zero degree back. zero change in direction of truck = zero degree angle is elegant. zero equals zero is elegant. zero equals 180 is NOT elegant.

    On what truckers call the 45 degree back, there is only a small change in the direction that the truck faces. On what truckers call a 90 degree back, there is twice as much a change in the direction that the truck faces as the change in direction that the truck faces on what truckers call a 45 degree back.

    It is a lot more elegant to have a small change in the direction that the truck faces to be a small number angle and to have a change in the direction that the truck faces that is twice as large to have an angle twice as large. So what truckers universally describe as the 45 degree back and the 90 degree back has a lot of elegance. I agree with Moosetek 100%.

    If what truckers call the 45 degree back was instead named the 135 degree back, the name 135 degree back would apply to a back that has a SMALLER change in direction than the 90 degree back, which is very NOT elegant.

    So it all makes perfect sense. I have been meaning to explain this with a great deal of granularity for a few days but have been busy with a truck breakdown until now.
     
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  4. Long FLD

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    I always thought the 45/90 terminology referred to the angle of the dock or parking spot in relation to the street or driveway. In the pic I’d call the docks on the left a 45 and the docks on the right a 90. I’ve never considered the position of the truck in relation to the dock or parking spot because we will all set up differently to back in.

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  5. 50WT

    50WT Road Train Member

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    Does anyone really need to figure all this out before they back into a dock? I'd probably be backed in and unloaded before most of nowadays drivers could get their shoes off to start figuring.
     
  6. Kyle G.

    Kyle G. Road Train Member

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    Better get used to it, we've got at least another 25 pages to go until he figures it out.
     
  7. SmallPackage

    SmallPackage Road Train Member

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    All these years i’ve been not so elegant in my backings up in nes ssss.
     
  8. DannyB

    DannyB Medium Load Member

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    Boy! Five pages worth of discussion. As I recall, when I started driving, it was simple. There is the dock, bump the pads on the dock with the dock pads on the trailer without hitting anything else and keep the tractor bumper out of traffic. No angle numbers at all. ;) Worked for decades.
     
  9. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    This is not a thread about how to back into a loading dock. This is a thread about semantics.
     
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  10. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    The phrases 45 degree back and 90 degree back are largely used for backing tests at trucking companies and, perhaps, tests administered by DOT to get CDLs. It's a lot less common for the phrases 45 degree back and 90 degree back to be used to refer to a back at a truckstop or shipper/receiver.
     
  11. Long FLD

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    Way back in the olden days when I took my test there wasn’t anything about a 45 degree and the 90 was called an alley dock test.
     
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