A antenna issue that has me stumped
Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by craig_sez, Jul 14, 2022.
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Edit: Oh wait when you said bottom picture, I thought you meant the bottom picture showing the antenna.Another Canadian driver Thanks this. -
The pic where you see the truck # is what i put on today...The other one is almost two yr old set up..
#'s are not bad just to far up in the cb band....If i had the #'s i have on 40 down on or near 20 i would be happier...
In my area the local ch is 1(26965)so i listen there the most...When i go side band its (38 lsb) and my #'s as you see are much better......
When i had first installed the 102 on the 10" riser(bottom pic)i was getting even closer to darn near perfection,had a higher return loss(higer the # on the analyzer the better)which i think is rec..The rl also seems to have something to do with swr measurement..Another Canadian driver Thanks this. -
What is Return Loss?
The measurement of the amount of light reflected back toward the source is called return loss, and it is expressed in decibels (dB). This measurement parameter is always a positive number, and a high return loss is a favorable measurement parameter that generally correlates to a low insertion loss. Similarly, reflectance, which is also a measurement parameter that expresses reflection in decibels, is a negative number, and if it is excessive, it is not a favorable measurement parameter.
Return loss is the loss of signal power due to signal reflection or return by a discontinuity in a fiber-optic link or transmission line. This impedance mismatch can be with a device inserted in the line or with the terminating load. Moreover, return loss is the relationship between both the reflection coefficient (Γ) and the standing wave ratio (SWR). Incidentally, if you increase the return loss, it will correlate to a lower SWR.
Return loss is a measurement parameter that expresses how well a device or line matches. A high return loss is advantageous as it will result in a lower insertion loss.Another Canadian driver and craig_sez Thank this. -
From doin my run last night this newer set up has a bad case of cooked noodle lol....Gotta sturdy it up some more some how..Not sure if im getting any better or worse rec to be honest..Still those puerto rician fellas and some mexicans i think from down nyc area,drove me nutz yesterday when some yahoo locked his stereo on his radio and at times when the skip signal was strong it would block out all the locals that were any more than 1/2 mi apart....
Yeah i get the idea on what you posted,i sorta knew that but thats about it..Not enough detail on it in my antenna book..
Tks though..Another Canadian driver Thanks this. -
I did notice that the antenna looked kind of weak with it leaning so far forward. My goofy thoughts were that you need to stand it straight up, and tie some fishing string from the top of the antenna to the front grill of the truck.. Ha.Another Canadian driver Thanks this. -
The 10" one i bought off ebay from a seller who makes them stateside somewhere..
Thats the one you see on the ground,the one i just had made and installed is the one with my truck # ....Yes the 102 is leaned about 45 deg (on the bracket)and then droopes a lil more under its own weight...With the 10" i had some stiffer pvc to stop most of the flex,not so on my latest set up..
I got some wimpy pvc on it now but will be changeing it very soon...I only drive 58mph(for mpg)and the wind at that speed sit it straight up,so im sure to be gettin some reflect off the cab..
I thought 25 db return loss was the best based on my aarl ant book but i have had and see others with a good bit higher #'s so thats why im trying to get better #'s..Plus i would like them clkser to ctr of the cb band like i had before..Another Canadian driver Thanks this. -
just a thought, maybe I’m not reading this right but you need to see what the antenna is doing at the stud, not at the coax inside the truck, you are trying to determine what is wrong with a low frequency resonance.
check the mount and take the reading right at the antenna.Another Canadian driver Thanks this. -
It still is attached to coax to do so but...Another Canadian driver Thanks this. -
You can’t compensate for a bad feedline, it is a process of elimination.
you may also have common mode current issues.Another Canadian driver Thanks this.
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