a/c system flush.

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by snowman_w900, Jun 17, 2013.

  1. snowman_w900

    snowman_w900 Road Train Member

    4,418
    81,024
    Nov 25, 2010
    0
    i'm in the process of replacing some parts on my a/c system. decided to replace compressor, expansion valve, drier. the condenser is like new so i'm reusing it. also, doing a new blower motor and new blower wheels.

    Someone said you can use mineral spirits to do a flush with. what do you guys think of that method?

    I was just going to use a good flush solvent and flush gun with good dry filtered compressed air.

    so, what do you A/C guys like to use when you do one?

    do you disassemble everything and do the flushing piece by piece?
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

    20,527
    13,262
    Jul 6, 2009
    0
    first off. you drain the oil. in a measuring cup so you know exactly how much oil came out and exactly how much to put back in. so that means tearing everything down.

    fill the unit up with flush solvent. shake unit around vigorously for a few minutes. drain solvent and let air dry. you can blow compressed air but you won't get all the nooks and crannies. but it'll dry faster.

    make sure to use fresh green o ring seals. coat them with oil before installing on systems and connecting the lines. you won't risk tearing the seals when connecting the peices.

    oil goes in the condensor. the receiver/drier. and the compressor.

    if the blower motor isn't noisy there's no reason to replace that. and no reason to replace the wheel unless it's broken. or lost it's weight for balance.

    or why your overhauling the entire system. when you had everything working before. :biggrin_25519:
     
  4. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

    7,751
    6,184
    Feb 4, 2009
    0
    The idea of a flush to have get the system as pure and clean as possible. Doing wrong with the wrong chemicals is only counter productive. To properly flush a system you should use a/c system flush fluid. It is designed to clean the a/c in such a way to leave minimal residue behind that is detrimental to a/c performance. Remember, you are trying to keep the amount of contaminants to a minimum or eliminate them all together. Never use shop air for this. Again, you want to reduce the chance of introducing contaminants and pollutants to the system as much as possible. The air from your shop compressor is actually quite dirty as far as an a/c system is concerned. There are oil and moisture residues that will cause problems in your system. Your receiver dryer is designed to filter this stuff out. But why put it there, if by accident, in the first place if you don't have too? Also, condenser and evaporator flushing is iffy at best. There is no way to 100% clean them out, other than replacement. Flushing them due to system contamination such as wrong type or too much oil is ok, but if you had a compressor failure with metal flakes you would have to replace them.
     
    VisionLogistics Thanks this.
  5. snowman_w900

    snowman_w900 Road Train Member

    4,418
    81,024
    Nov 25, 2010
    0
    Thanks Snowwy. I talked to the guy that bought the truck new, and he had never replaced the compressor, or anything else in the entire system. so I figure its time to do some work since its been opened up and I have a little extra time right now, but later in the summer i'm gonna be extremely busy and if it goes down, i'm not gonna be wanting to try to be fooling with it then. and since the compressor hasn't let loose(and it might not anyways) atleast I know theres no shrapenal in the system yet an may be eaiser to clean whats in there now instead of what might be in there later. May just be easier for me to take a learning curve and some time while I have it right now and do it and get a little more familiar with what I got.

    Reason for the blower motor replace, sometimes it would start a squalling noise when on high sometimes, not always, but every now and again. it was super easy to get to and get out and its 62 dollars at k/w. also, one of the blower wheels had a crack in the center of it. the motor has the long shaft with a blower wheel on each side. 20 bucks a piece, figured why not while im in there too.

    i'm still gonna finish charging it though before I tear into it. friend of mine has a machine he can recover and recycle it, so no loss there. i', just curious to see if theres a problem and how its gonna act when its charged. like you said snowwy, i wont know until I get it all charged up and see whats its doing. may learn something new or maybe not, but its worth seeing what was causing problems. if there is one. I always like to learn something new if I can and with the help of you guys in here, its time worth spending.
     
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2013
  6. snowman_w900

    snowman_w900 Road Train Member

    4,418
    81,024
    Nov 25, 2010
    0
    Heavyd, id hate to have to replace this evaporator that's in the dash. the one in the bunk is easy. I don't think theres anything wrong with either one, but I guess ya never know.

    if not compressed air from a dried and filtered compressor, what would you use? I here nitrogen, but what all does that consist of?
     
  7. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

    7,751
    6,184
    Feb 4, 2009
    0
    You would only have to replace if you had a compressor failure and metal got into the system. Nitrogen is easy to get. Lots of shops use it. It would just be an issue of getting the right adapters and pressure regulators to blow everything out. Nitrogen is also used for pressure testing the a/c system, so it is good to have. We get ours from the same place we get ouracetylene and oxygen for the torches.
     
  8. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

    20,527
    13,262
    Jul 6, 2009
    0
    you get better results with virgin freon. i've never had good luck with recycled freon. and i'm a retired mechanic.

    it'll work. but not as good as virgin. i've used it for topping off purposes. but not a full blown recharge.
     
  9. morr2fab

    morr2fab Medium Load Member

    338
    110
    Oct 3, 2012
    0
    You want to careful when working on AC systems if you have never done them. If the system was working before you took it a part, a simple charge would be all you would have needed. As long as the system is charged and has the proper amount of oil it will run forever. Taking the system apart as you are doing can introduce water into the system and you don't want that. Yes you will have to use nitrogen to blow out the system and a vacuum to vac it down before you recharge it. You will also need the proper oil and the exact amount. Also a way to put the oil back in the system. On the truck it should have a label that has the weight of Freon and amount and type of oil. Good luck
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.