A Detroit 500 engine riddle, can it be solved

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  1. droy

    droy Heavy Load Member

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    I am fairly certain that motor oil does not have a flash point. It will not form an ignitable mixture with air. (It is non-flammable)

    Trucker 007, Please tell me where you got your information concerning motor oil;
    I haul Conoco and Kendall brand motor oil, it is NON haz-mat, and NOT DOT regulated!!!!!!!!!
    If it is flammable, then I owe you an apology for disagreeing with you, also a whole lot of people, (especially DOT) should rightfully be embarrassed for allowing this material to be hauled as non regulated, non Haz Mat.
     
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  3. Trucker 007

    Trucker 007 Bobtail Member

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    NOT FLAMMABLE!!!!!??? Hmmm,i guess everything i ever knew about anything is wrong
    I don't know what planet you are from,but just take a quart of motor oil,in a pan,and hold a propane torch to it and see if it does not burn...i would tell all you guys to dump a gallon into the turbo intake,but i cannot be held liable for any damage,LOL

    Keep in mind,i didnt say it would EXPLODE like gasoline,but it most certainly WILL burn...jeeze,where do you think we get all the diesel/gasoline/jet fuel/etc... from? IT ALL COMES FROM OIL I think maybe someone needs to go back and study his high school chemistry.

    Motor oil is a flammable substance. Motor oil is considered a class II flammable hazard, which means it has a flash point of 100 to 140 degrees Fahrenheit. The flash point is the temperature at which enough vapor can form above a substance to create an ignition.References:

    University of California San Diego: Flammable and Combustible Liquids Overview
    Workplace Group: Flammable and Combustible Liquids: Storage and Handling
     
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  4. chalupa

    chalupa Road Train Member

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    Thank you 007...... however true that may be.....you both are correct. Bulk motor oil is not regulated and it will burn. Old Detroit's ran away, ran back-wards and did lots of things strange. If the engine accumulated enough oil in the air box...it would run away by feeding on this oil. I've also seen Cats run away in the oilfield....they got a sniff of natural gas and bye bye gutto....so it's possible.

    Please return to your neutral corners............
     
  5. Trucker 007

    Trucker 007 Bobtail Member

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    That's what i was thinking...they say it is NOT possible,but I know it IS...i've had it happen to me...so,i'll not post on this thread anymore.
     
  6. stranger

    stranger Road Train Member

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    I guess the vehicles I posted in the videos were running on coal.
     
  7. droy

    droy Heavy Load Member

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    If you read my posts, I think you will find that while I disagreed with some, I wasn't unreasonable, I did not even accuse anyone of being from another planet.
    I regret that I cannot post all the reasons and info that makes me disagree with the motor oil flammability issue-(too time consuming); and I will not argue the engine runaway issue, but merely stated what little involvement I had with the turbo failure/engine oil drama. As a matter of fact, the only case of a truck engine runaway I have any direct association with was a two stroke 350 Detroit belonging to my father; it happened when a leak developed while filling a nearby propane tank. Yes, it self destructed, but that story doesn't apply here, does it?


    I don't know who "they" are that you are referring to, I never said it couldn't happen; If you read my post concerning the trucks hauling coke, and their higher than normal turbo failure rate, I stated that to my knowledge none of those ran away, even after sucking large amounts of oil into the intake system.
     
  8. terryt

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    had a cat c13 and cummins ism both runaway becuase of turbo failure. The engines did blow up becuase they ran out of oil. Some people should believe the story of others and try to learn something.
     
  9. Smalltruck

    Smalltruck Light Load Member

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    Umm wow. Oil can and does burn. It is transported as a Class D ORM substance. Read your orange book.
     
  10. shoesw9

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    Self Preservation!!!:biggrin_2556: I have seen what they can do when they come apart!
     
  11. josh.c

    josh.c Road Train Member

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    I don't have a dog in this fight, but I'd like to add that B100(100% bio-diesel) isn't hazmat. Neither is vegetable oil, but diesel engines can run on both. Rudolph Diesel pretty famously ran his first successful engine on peanut oil.
     
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