A fair rate check for a dry van out of Chicago, IL as of July 2017

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  1. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    For a 53 ft dry van, general freight (neutral, clean commodity) - up to 45 000 lbs, between 250 - 500 miles distance - a day long run;
    What's the rate that is considered a fair rate; by that I mean a rate by which a broker does not take advantage of an ignorant owner operator, yet the owner operator leaves the broker enough margin, so both shake hands and are content.
    What fair rates should I expect on the following lanes as of today:

    Chicago, IL - Columbus, OH
    Chicago, IL - Omaha, Ne
    Chicago, IL - St. Louis, MO
    Chicago, IL - Kansas City, MO
    Chicago, IL - St. Paul, MN (twin cities)
    Columbus, OH - York, PA

    Can I get some quotes from both brokers and owner operators please?
     
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  3. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    the latest rates i received on those lanes were
    Chicago, IL - Columbus, OH - 950
    Chicago, IL - Omaha, Ne -1000
    Chicago, IL - St. Louis, MO - 800
    Chicago, IL - Kansas City, MO - 1100
    Chicago, IL - St. Paul, MN (twin cities) - 1000
    Columbus, OH - York, PA - 950

    was it ok or too cheap?
     
  4. stayinback

    stayinback Road Train Member

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    chi- to Columbus is GREAT for a dry.@ 950 bucks!!

    Omaha should be around 12-1300

    twin cities same 12-1300........

    Your St Louis and KC are on target.
     
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  5. Ben Grinev

    Ben Grinev Light Load Member

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    I'd say Columbus to York was a little cheap,. My dry runs (I have a reefer but still pull some dry loads), are from $1000 minimum, no point into going to PA to leave at $1.30 per mile. 2 weeks ago went from Cleveland to Denver, PA at @1200 dry load
     
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  6. TallJoe

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    Yeah!!!! I kind of realized that when they would not give me stupid Pepsi load out of Carlise, PA to Grand Rapids MI for more than 800, 725 was the most they offered 45 minutes before their pick up time.... I ended up deadheading to OH stateline to get 750 to Fort Wayne, in. Going past OH sate line does not do much good, if you want to head back west, it seems.
     
  7. Ben Grinev

    Ben Grinev Light Load Member

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    Exactly, unless you have a solid broker/customer base, there is no sense in to going to PA on a dry van; you might get lucky on a reefer to get 1.60-1.70, but that is luck.
     
  8. Bigrayon

    Bigrayon Road Train Member

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    Thank God I don't have to run up there any more, I have nice little run I do from GA to NC and back 394 miles round trip all miles paid 8 hrs per day 6 to 7 days a week man I am in heaven but still walking
     
  9. TallJoe

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    The rates out of Chicago to California West coast, notably, LA area, are one of the poorest in the country; 2200 - 2500 for the most part of the year so far, to get 3000 off of a load board is not that easy. The interesting part is that the same rates are easy to get from here to places half way to LA area, Denver, CO, Cheyenne, WY, Salt Lake City, UT (2500-2800). Also, from Omaha, NE, as of last week you can easily go to LA for 2500- 2800!. So why not to go to Omaha, NE for 1000-1200 and from there take 2800 to LA making Chicago - LA worth 4000? Or even why go to LA from Chicago for 2500 instead of going to SLC for the same amount and from there to deadhead empty or get at least 800 -1000 to finish in Ontario,CA? I guess another question would be who goes to CA for 2200 out of Chicago? It must be rail freight rates, sending a trailer/container on a train, giving some competition here.
     
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  10. mladen86

    mladen86 Medium Load Member

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    Tql called me yesterday offering $3000 to go to Fontana,ca from Chi. Said no thanx.
    I would also like to know who's taking those loads. Probably reefers our of Cali
     
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  11. TallJoe

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    3000 is pretty "decent" relatively speaking. They take it, cram a few partials to it and ship it on train. Especially to Fontana,CA.
     
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