A good flatbed/step/heavy set up?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Battle Born, Apr 6, 2014.

  1. cnsper

    cnsper Road Train Member

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    Yeah if you add the manufacturer's gross weight for each axle, but you are not going to get 150k gross on that setup and be legal on the bridge weight.

    8 axles with a 114 foot spread from the front to the rear axle (hub to hub) is only 131k gross. Yeah the manufacturer may say you can but the gooberment says that you can't. Guess who wins?

    Then you have the inside bridge weights to worry about.
     
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  3. nightgunner

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    Yeah I forgot about that on the Bridge formula.
     
  4. cnsper

    cnsper Road Train Member

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    Looking at something like this Reitnouer

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    These run 62k new but used I can find quads for around 20-25k all day long.

    Some are a triple axle with a tag. The other thing you need to think about is weight VS gain. One post says to get a triple axle trailer but you only gain 2k in capacity but add weight with that extra axle so a triple will carry 42k on that axle set but with a 10'1" spread you can carry 40k on 2 axles.

    You do need to worry about the weight of the truck as someone here mentioned that you did not. That is for payload capacity. I have seen a Western Star with a 48' aluminum step weigh out at 35k while a similar vintage Pete with a 53' step weigh in at 30k empty. That is 5k in payload difference.

    I expect to be in the 32 to 35k gross empty and full of fuel. That means I can put on 70k of payload. Works out great when you get paid per mile by the hundred weight.
     
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  5. Battle Born

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    I'm really trying to look at Pete or KW. I know western stars are pretty heavy. But I also know Pete's and such can be too depending on what you carry on it.
     
  6. cnsper

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    It is all the small things at that point that add up.... Mid roof vs condo, double bunk vs single, etc.

    I am lucky to get home 2-3 nights per week as I live basically in the center of my routes...

    The more storage inside, the more junk you fill it with.
     
  7. Battle Born

    Battle Born Heavy Load Member

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    Yeah, I don't need a whole lot to sleep with. If I can stand a little. Even just to stretch, I'm happy. It's the bed and storage space that matters haha. I like comfort. If my seat is good, I can reach what I need, and keep everything stored away, I'm happy. I like KW cause I can get a sun roof. As long as they don't leak, I'd love that. Sometimes it's the little luxuries.
     
  8. GearWarrant

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    Following this thread
     
  9. fortycalglock

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    You also have to remember that your experience in spec'ing setups is obviously from the PNW. They do a lot of funny stuff out there compared to the rest of the country. Permitted, you can run 60,000, or more, on triaxle almost everywhere out here.
     
  10. cnsper

    cnsper Road Train Member

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    That is because I only run 5 NW states... Home every other night. I can still run this as a tandem or triple. In a previous life I traveled all over the country and have no desire to do so again. Don't care to see anything east of the Mississippi or Komiefornia. Hell I don't even go to my home state and that is only a 5 hour drive. I still love to drive though and will do so in my current 6 state area. You are right though it may not work elsewhere. I can license for 105,500 in the surrounding states with this setup and no permits required. Why don't you give some suggestions to the OP?
     
  11. fortycalglock

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    I think the tandem truck with triaxle trailer is ideal for this side of the country, and that has already been said.
    When you said this, that is only applicable to where you run. Typically, we can't license for for over 80 (there are some states, sure), so when we pull a permit for over 80k, we can have 60k+ on triaxle. Heck, FL and GA will give you 100,000 pounds on 5 axles if you're pulling a can. Every state's laws are different, and typically, out here, to go over 80k, it has to be one piece/nondivisible. S
     
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