A Noobs Business Plan.... or.... Working harder for less money

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by NightHawk365, Apr 22, 2019.

  1. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Admit it, running "outlaw" was what everybody always loved about trucking. I don't know any bullhauler who'd give up their Pete or KW for a desk job or any other job.
     
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  3. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Do you have any friends that haul cattle? Or possibly own cattle? If you do, you can probably ask them to pull some strings for you.

    Don’t just up and quit your bread and butter. 4F4D504D-7669-40D5-A8BE-AD36BABBE4AF.jpeg 5D18B1E0-F108-48FF-AA1A-B033D239C3D1.jpeg
    I do enjoy the hell out of truckin. But now, I’d like to build an old rig, modernize it, put a tilt bed on the back (to carry my motorcycle)and a coffin sleeper, and try my hand at being a pilot car. Or just roam the country.
     
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    Kw Owners Club Bobtail Member

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    Definitely wouldn't give up 85k in my pocket to go drive truck! It's not glitz n glamour and haul8ng cattle isn't a job for a novice to learn on.Id stay at my 85k job,save for retirement then buy a long nose Pete and huge 5th wheel the day I retire n cruise the state's
     
  5. x1Heavy

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    M11's or N11's etc are not engines that go fast.

    What they will do is tip toe around like mountain goats on questionable roads. But are not Macks.

    I had a engine like that for almost a year running steel and aluminum and it was not governed, but again not a fast truck. The last thing you wanted was fast with coils.

    I understand over a million calves drowned this spring so far in the floods. It will take years to replace the loss. In the mean time I expect meat prices to go up and the plants to be short of cattle delivered. We are already making ready by getting a floor freezer and buying beef for it through the summer to be frozen. Come winter we should bypass the initial price increases.
     
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  6. McCauley

    McCauley Medium Load Member

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    Troll?
     
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  7. NightHawk365

    NightHawk365 Light Load Member

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    Reckon the grass is always greener and everybody wants what the other guy has... As for walking in piss and eating garbage, not sure if you mean truck stops or riding sick pen? Either way, I suspect one is not much different than the other. I will say however, that except for some calves we lost due to wolves, a few cases of alfalfa bloat when a neighbors fence went down and the normal losses to scours and the like, #### few cows have died on my watch.
     
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  8. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Hand, I’m not saying not to truck, I’m saying make sure that’s what you want to do before you quit. Do that by seeing if one of the cattle people nearby will let you work on the weekend or your time off.

    I learned to turn wrenches by hanging out with people that turned wrenches. I didn’t want to be a mechanic, I just wanted to be able to turn my own wrenches.
     
  9. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Yep. When it happens the OP may have to pay another driver/trucking company to finish the trip, plus pay for repairs. I'm a city kid, but it's my impression few loads are more time sensitive than livestock. If that's true, breakdowns must be prevented, or have a plan and money to deal with one when it happens.
     
  10. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Keep your dream, but why not learn the job on somebody's payroll? Once you have learned the driving portion buy equipment. I think the statistic is 90+% of new drivers do not finish their first year. A LOT of that are people with poor work history quitting this job like they quit their last 9 jobs. A LOT of that is a "civilian" rolling the dice and letting Google decide where to work after they watch a couple of YT videos.

    Two things are certain:
    1. You can learn the skills and do this job
    2. You can get hired

    The wildcard is the results after 1 & 2 depend on your research and the match between you and the trucking company.
     
  11. NightHawk365

    NightHawk365 Light Load Member

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    @TripleSix ..... I know exactly what you mean, and that is my plan. My response there was to a post above that got deleted apparently. I plan to haul local to get started, while keeping my current position for at least 2 years. Once I have enough experience, and am sure this is the direction I want to go, then I will jump ship for good. That was the reason I bought an older truck that I know is in good shape... Relatively minor investment that can likely be sold for my cost if things don't happen the way I planned.

    @tscottme and @Ridgeline ... Not too worried about the contingency fund. There is sufficient money there to rent another truck for several months if needed, and to make any repairs to the current one when something goes to hell. The truck is in good mechanical condition, and I do all of my own maintenance, so I'm not taking somebody's word for it. I have spent the last few days off crawling all over that thing, fixing everything that isn't up to spec. The only thing really new to me is the Air Brake portion of the work, and with the help of some folks from here, I am figuring that out as well.

    Between working local with my own truck when I can, and the occasional fill in work for one of our normal company drivers, I hope to get sufficient experience before making the jump. My biggest concern is/was getting sufficient windshield time to satisfy the experience criteria that a lot of freight companies have. Based on what @Rubber duck kw said, it may be that it's not required by some of the Ag haulers, which would be great. I would have no problem pulling for somebody else, in their truck if that's the way it goes eventually. I just figured that having my own truck would increase the opportunity for success.
     
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